If the attendance at the event wasn’t so hot, it’s because it’s becoming absolutely brutal to fly anywhere nowadays. That, and burnout is pretty common in charismatic circles. One can only take so much of whipping oneself into spiritual frenzies, and after awhile, you just realize “is this all there is?” Herd mentality and mass peer pressure only goes so far.

There may not be much outright hate on display, but it’s still there. I had what I thought were good friends when I was a charismatic, and when I eventually left the movement and embraced the truth that I am a gay man and God loves me no matter what, they never called me or saw me again. Typical.

I’m not much of a wine connoisseur. I only embibe a little 1)at New Year’s Eve 2) in Business-Class flights or 3) with freebies when I visit Las Vegas.

But, we should all have a mid-week celebration tomorrow in our own little special way. I’m not going to be terribly upset if we lose tonight. But I’m not going to be smug and snarky about winning either. I’ll walk a little taller and I’ll be more than receptive if anyone wants to talk to me about the election results. I think it’s time I have a discussion with my co-workers about who I am. They know…but how my private life is compared to theirs has been a mutually respected taboo topic.

Tomorrow might be different.

I still can only hope that the failure of the initiative will cause a greater rift between the mormons and the rest of the ufndie crowd. They’ll be back trying to convince each other that they alone hold the absolute truth.

No big party tomorrow, tho’ i suspect there will be a big one if SF when we win. I think I may go buy a couple of lobsters, have a special dinner for the husband. we’ll open up our $75 bottle of superb hungarian cabernet.

Save your time/efforts. I appreciate your ideas. I personally would love to hold up a sign that says: “I’m NOT inferior” across from the big mamma Temple here in Salt Lake City.

But, it would not make any difference. This is an age-old conflict that will only be finally resolved by the adoption or the failure to amend the U.S. Constitution. The money will flow into each and every legal challenge to give gays equality.

And even after that, the Mormons will continue to exclude or demonize or marginalize gay Saints from their Church of Jesus Christ…in these Latter-Days.

I would just say: Have a Party tomorrow Ben. Have a BIG party.

It does make me a little nervous to see Evangelical Christians adopting Islamic traditions, since those Islamic benevolent traditions could be warped by the Evangelicals to include a full-on jihad in the manner of the fundamentalist, sectarian Islamists.

Afterall, Army of God (the anti-abortion terrorists) are not very much different than Islamic Jihad, and we have our own theocrats in the form of the Reconstructionists.

If these propositions lose, i am truly wondering whether the fundies will turn on their ATM’s. The ensuing religious war might be interesting.

On another note, cowboy, maybe you can answer this question. When 8 loses, I am very interested in picketing the temple with such signs as “I guess God doesn’t agree” “Did you get a good ROI”
“How many starving Children can be fed for $35M” “Save marriage. attack gay people” and as many others as I can come up with. What’s the best day to do it? Is it a good idea?

You see…Mormons pray differently than those Evangelicals.

There is no way to know but I can bet my horse that if the Mormons were in charge of this prayer rally they would have easily filled that stadium.

I’m sure that’s missing the point. These people are working on the assumption that they can persuade a supernatural entity to influence the outcome of the vote. It doesn’t really matter if they have the numbers or if those people can vote in California, we’re talking divine intervention here, not mundane polling.

God can do anything. They’re praying for a miracle, because they need one.