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	<title>Comments on: Nationwide Protests Called for Saturday</title>
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		<title>By: Jane mae</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/11/11/6126/comment-page-1#comment-24202</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane mae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 22:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, should the Yes on 8 also come to protest our rights as well? I think we pretty much got our point across when we won on Nov. 4th.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, should the Yes on 8 also come to protest our rights as well? I think we pretty much got our point across when we won on Nov. 4th.</p>
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		<title>By: Stefano A</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/11/11/6126/comment-page-1#comment-23398</link>
		<dc:creator>Stefano A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 20:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Consider this a personal plea...

In the past few days there have been several reports emerging out of Utah about Mormon properties having their windows shot out with BB-guns.

Now a report has emerged that in Littleon, Colorado, a fire outside a Mormon church is being investigated as a bias-motivated arson that may have stemmed from the church&#039;s position on a gay marriage amendment in California because a church member found a burning copy of The Book of Mormon on a door step.

Now, so far, other than for supposition, there has been no direct linking between LGBT protestors or activists and these events.

I support the protests and acts of civil disobedience.

But this is a plea for Box Turtle Bulletin readers to encourage their friends and advocates if they are aware of people in our movement translating our legitimate anger into such acts, we remind them to be civil acts of disobedience, not hooliganism and not to transform legitimate expessions of anger into actual hatred or hateful bigotted acts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Consider this a personal plea&#8230;</p>
<p>In the past few days there have been several reports emerging out of Utah about Mormon properties having their windows shot out with BB-guns.</p>
<p>Now a report has emerged that in Littleon, Colorado, a fire outside a Mormon church is being investigated as a bias-motivated arson that may have stemmed from the church&#8217;s position on a gay marriage amendment in California because a church member found a burning copy of The Book of Mormon on a door step.</p>
<p>Now, so far, other than for supposition, there has been no direct linking between LGBT protestors or activists and these events.</p>
<p>I support the protests and acts of civil disobedience.</p>
<p>But this is a plea for Box Turtle Bulletin readers to encourage their friends and advocates if they are aware of people in our movement translating our legitimate anger into such acts, we remind them to be civil acts of disobedience, not hooliganism and not to transform legitimate expessions of anger into actual hatred or hateful bigotted acts.</p>
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		<title>By: Marla Stevens</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/11/11/6126/comment-page-1#comment-23284</link>
		<dc:creator>Marla Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 10:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dissing the local groups is silly.  For instance, this group &quot;scheduled&quot; demos at city halls across the country, not having a clue whether city hall in a particular location made any sense at all.  In one such location, there&#039;s no legal demo space sans a permit, so they&#039;re literally sending people to do civil disobedience without their knowledge or consent, which is a really lousy and unethical thing to do.  In another one, the gathering space address is on a tiny street with a building behind it that&#039;s closed on Saturdays in a downtown area that, on weekends, all but rolls up the sidewalks and will show up very badly on camera, have no public restroom access, and where the government is actually quite supportive of gay families, meaning they&#039;ll be literally demonstrating against our friends instead of demonstrating at the places nearby where our enemies are.  A simple look at the Marriage Equality website would&#039;ve put them in touch with good local organizers who would never have made these mistakes and are now in the unenviable position of having to undo the damage with almost no lead time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dissing the local groups is silly.  For instance, this group &#8220;scheduled&#8221; demos at city halls across the country, not having a clue whether city hall in a particular location made any sense at all.  In one such location, there&#8217;s no legal demo space sans a permit, so they&#8217;re literally sending people to do civil disobedience without their knowledge or consent, which is a really lousy and unethical thing to do.  In another one, the gathering space address is on a tiny street with a building behind it that&#8217;s closed on Saturdays in a downtown area that, on weekends, all but rolls up the sidewalks and will show up very badly on camera, have no public restroom access, and where the government is actually quite supportive of gay families, meaning they&#8217;ll be literally demonstrating against our friends instead of demonstrating at the places nearby where our enemies are.  A simple look at the Marriage Equality website would&#8217;ve put them in touch with good local organizers who would never have made these mistakes and are now in the unenviable position of having to undo the damage with almost no lead time.</p>
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		<title>By: Alas, a blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Nationwide Protest Against Proposition 8 This Saturday!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alas, a blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Nationwide Protest Against Proposition 8 This Saturday!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 05:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 15, at 1:30 p.m. EST / 10:30 a.m. PST, will be the first nationwide protest against Proposition 8. Box Turtle Bulletin has links for cities nationwide, and there&#8217;s more info at Join The Impact. I plan to be at the Portland [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 15, at 1:30 p.m. EST / 10:30 a.m. PST, will be the first nationwide protest against Proposition 8. Box Turtle Bulletin has links for cities nationwide, and there&#8217;s more info at Join The Impact. I plan to be at the Portland [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Burroway</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/11/11/6126/comment-page-1#comment-23157</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Burroway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 01:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I seem to have omitted the listing for Washington entirely.  My bad.

The web site is changing constantly. The international links were just added only in the past couple of hours. It will be impossible to keep up with it.

For the latest info, I encourage everyone to check with &lt;a href=&quot;http://jointheimpact.wetpaint.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Join the Impact&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I seem to have omitted the listing for Washington entirely.  My bad.</p>
<p>The web site is changing constantly. The international links were just added only in the past couple of hours. It will be impossible to keep up with it.</p>
<p>For the latest info, I encourage everyone to check with <a href="http://jointheimpact.wetpaint.com" rel="nofollow">Join the Impact</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 01:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is also a protest being organized for Olympia, Washington.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is also a protest being organized for Olympia, Washington.</p>
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		<title>By: Tavdy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tavdy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 01:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to the site, there will also be protests in Edinburgh, Ottawa and Toronto, and possibly in France and Australia as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to the site, there will also be protests in Edinburgh, Ottawa and Toronto, and possibly in France and Australia as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Emily K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emily K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 23:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m there. Decided to do it 2 days ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m there. Decided to do it 2 days ago.</p>
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		<title>By: SharonB</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/11/11/6126/comment-page-1#comment-23094</link>
		<dc:creator>SharonB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 21:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mark:
huh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mark:<br />
huh?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/11/11/6126/comment-page-1#comment-23090</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 21:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! How about respecting the rights of those that already voted?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! How about respecting the rights of those that already voted?</p>
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