You missed the boat on that one Bettina, in many places marriage is for gays as well and that number of places is growing all the time. Keep your blinders on though, it’ll help you to deny reality for a little while longer.

Threats and political bullying just give more people more reasons to detest you. . . . You push – you get pushed back. . . . Next time, try picking on someone who won’t back down!

Like a broken clock, unwittingly you are occasionally correct.

Bullies (just like you) typically become enraged and cry “FOUL!, that’s not fair” when their victims fight back against their attacks.

Can any of you see the backlash that’s headed your way?

Well, Bettina, if you are a betting person, I invite you to bet against us. And please don’t bother to read our post-Stonewall history of the last 42 years – because you might decide that placing that bet is bad idea.

Let me translate that for you:

“I was happy to pretend to be nice and friendly as long as y’all acted like good little queers, showing proper gratitude for whatever crumbs I deigned to throw your way. But now that you’ve decided to stand up and request to be treated like the fully human beings you are, I’m going to let my true, bigoted, and hateful colors show.”

It can’t have all the benefits and drawbacks without also having the same name.

But the thing is, we already do. Gays refer to themselves as married, even though the state doesn’t recognize it. Our families treat us like married couples, too. Well, the happy families, anyway.
Just the other day my partner and I were having a playful disagreement at a friend’s house and she said, “Don’t get a divorce!”

While the legal hasn’t caught up, the social is progressing forward. People still refer to Tammy as Melissa Etheridge’s wife. The next generation is going to grow up with gay folks openly refering to their partners as husband, wife, spouse and won’t know until their older that what the law says. But after growing up with Aunt Selma and Aunt Christy being a couple accepted by the family as being just like anyone else, they’re not likely to understand or accept a government that tells it differently.

We’ll win. It just might take a few more years.

Enjoy the Philippines. I live in a Filipino neighborhood and they are truly lovely people.

It’s so sad about the abject poverty, of course, but I guess those who prefer living where a church can “keep homosexual marriage other assorted irredularities off the books” can overlook such things.

If you can’t win in the bluest state on a day when Obama wins, with an amendment written by Jerry Brown, when are you going to win in a straight-out vote?! But just wait: POTUS and SCOTUS will ride to your extra-legal rescue!

I have no official association here, just to make that clear.

But I look at it this way with regard to some posters here (and kind of how I interact in my own life). . .

Some I view as nothing more than web trolls. (I try to ignore them.)

Some I view as anti-gay and close-minded and nothing said will change that. (I’ll confront their blatant lies for the benefit of others, but don’t really try to change their mind.)

Others are anti-gay but there is at least a glimmer of hope as their willing to dialogue and consider different perspectives. (We’ll bounce conversational points back and forth.)

I pick and choose who and when I’ll rebut.

If nothing else, reading the comments of other supporters and participating myself it helps me to refine my own thinking and arguments.