Comments on: About those “Peaceful Christians” In the Castro http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/11/19/6768 News, analysis and fact-checking of anti-gay rhetoric Thu, 18 Mar 2010 09:36:39 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Wyocowboy http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/11/19/6768/comment-page-1#comment-46746 Wyocowboy Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:14:54 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=6768#comment-46746 These people are SICK!!!! and they are scary. Just like OSHO says about religion it is EVIL. These people are SICK!!!! and they are scary. Just like OSHO says about religion it is EVIL.

]]> By: Maire http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/11/19/6768/comment-page-1#comment-41181 Maire Mon, 25 May 2009 07:18:59 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=6768#comment-41181 The idea that gays just want to be left alone to do what they want is wearing thin. Over the past decade, gay activists have appropriated the paradigm of "hate" to literally co-opt those who do not agree with them into passive submission. If you agree, you're with enlightenment, progressiveness, and LOVE. If you disagree, you're full of HATE; or, for the more kindly inclinced, you're mentally challenged. Because being accused of hate in today's society is the worst possible secular sin, it is plain to see why this strategy has been so effective. There is no "agree to disagree" anymore, so please let's dispense with this charade. The idea that gays just want to be left alone to do what they want is wearing thin. Over the past decade, gay activists have appropriated the paradigm of “hate” to literally co-opt those who do not agree with them into passive submission. If you agree, you’re with enlightenment, progressiveness, and LOVE. If you disagree, you’re full of HATE; or, for the more kindly inclinced, you’re mentally challenged. Because being accused of hate in today’s society is the worst possible secular sin, it is plain to see why this strategy has been so effective. There is no “agree to disagree” anymore, so please let’s dispense with this charade.

]]> By: Louie http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/11/19/6768/comment-page-1#comment-25709 Louie Mon, 24 Nov 2008 19:20:13 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=6768#comment-25709 Keep your Savior's "love" off of my "civil" rights. Then he said to them, "Give to Caesar what is Caesar's, and to God what is God's." Matthew 22:21 Keep your Savior’s “love” off of my “civil” rights.

Then he said to them, “Give to Caesar what is Caesar’s, and to God what is God’s.”
Matthew 22:21

]]> By: Timothy Kincaid http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/11/19/6768/comment-page-1#comment-25699 Timothy Kincaid Mon, 24 Nov 2008 18:39:15 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=6768#comment-25699 Christian, The problem with spreading "Christ's love" is that it never seems to in any way resemble anything Christ would do and it always seems to include a definition of "love" that is beyond baffling. It seems that "loving" the sinner justifies treating him heinously. Most folks have no use for that kind of love. Christian,

The problem with spreading “Christ’s love” is that it never seems to in any way resemble anything Christ would do and it always seems to include a definition of “love” that is beyond baffling. It seems that “loving” the sinner justifies treating him heinously.

Most folks have no use for that kind of love.

]]> By: Buffy http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/11/19/6768/comment-page-1#comment-25481 Buffy Sun, 23 Nov 2008 04:44:16 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=6768#comment-25481 Christian, While some of us consider the Christian lifestyle to be unacceptable in many ways but that doesn't mean we hold any hatred toward those who practice it. All we want is to extend an invitation to them to leave us alone and to stop trying to force their ways on us. Christian,

While some of us consider the Christian lifestyle to be unacceptable in many ways but that doesn’t mean we hold any hatred toward those who practice it. All we want is to extend an invitation to them to leave us alone and to stop trying to force their ways on us.

]]> By: John http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/11/19/6768/comment-page-1#comment-25463 John Sun, 23 Nov 2008 00:17:38 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=6768#comment-25463 Christian, I have news for you. I am not alone in cringing when I hear references to "homosexual lifestyle." The fact that you repeatedly used that in your apologia for Engal and his cohorts goes a very long way toward completely discrediting you in my book. If you are going to try and paint particular Christian extremist groups as loving, you should probably drop the hateful buzzwords. It really gets in the way of your message. Christian,

I have news for you. I am not alone in cringing when I hear references to “homosexual lifestyle.” The fact that you repeatedly used that in your apologia for Engal and his cohorts goes a very long way toward completely discrediting you in my book. If you are going to try and paint particular Christian extremist groups as loving, you should probably drop the hateful buzzwords. It really gets in the way of your message.

]]> By: Christian http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/11/19/6768/comment-page-1#comment-25459 Christian Sat, 22 Nov 2008 23:45:23 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=6768#comment-25459 While I know this will be largely disregarded, I would like to say a few things. While I cannot officially speak for any of the groups mentioned above I have had the opportunity to visit their physical locations and observe them for extended periods over the last several years. While at their large scale gatherings, i.e. The Call, or at their normal weekly meetings, I have never heard or seen any messages of hate towards those that follow the homosexual lifestyle. There needs to be a distinction, these groups do hold the homosexuality is a sin in the sight of God, BUT this does not equal any hatred or anger towards those that practice it. Just as they view this lifestyle as a sin they moreover hold it as their responsibility to extend Christ’s love to those who practice it. This is a difficult message to explain, mostly due to the inexcusable hatred the homosexual community has been subjected to by mainstream Christianity. While I cannot speak for any Christian group I can say, in my personal experience with Lou Engal’s organization, I have never seen any hostile actions, rhetoric, or propaganda against those who practice the homosexual lifestyle. They want to organize people to pray and to show compassion, is that such a violent act? I would also briefly like to mention that I have NEVER heard any pro-military message from Lou Engal, John Crowder, or Rick Joyner. The term “Joel’s Army” describes a theological belief that comes from the Bible in the book of Joel, describing a generation that will stand—through prayer—for the salvation of the nations. These are not hateful or violent groups. I cannot imagine the hatred you must have encountered from self proclaiming Christians to make you view these groups as you now do; for that you have my deepest and most sincere apology. Thank you for your time. Christian While I know this will be largely disregarded, I would like to say a few things. While I cannot officially speak for any of the groups mentioned above I have had the opportunity to visit their physical locations and observe them for extended periods over the last several years. While at their large scale gatherings, i.e. The Call, or at their normal weekly meetings, I have never heard or seen any messages of hate towards those that follow the homosexual lifestyle. There needs to be a distinction, these groups do hold the homosexuality is a sin in the sight of God, BUT this does not equal any hatred or anger towards those that practice it. Just as they view this lifestyle as a sin they moreover hold it as their responsibility to extend Christ’s love to those who practice it. This is a difficult message to explain, mostly due to the inexcusable hatred the homosexual community has been subjected to by mainstream Christianity. While I cannot speak for any Christian group I can say, in my personal experience with Lou Engal’s organization, I have never seen any hostile actions, rhetoric, or propaganda against those who practice the homosexual lifestyle. They want to organize people to pray and to show compassion, is that such a violent act?
I would also briefly like to mention that I have NEVER heard any pro-military message from Lou Engal, John Crowder, or Rick Joyner. The term “Joel’s Army” describes a theological belief that comes from the Bible in the book of Joel, describing a generation that will stand—through prayer—for the salvation of the nations.
These are not hateful or violent groups. I cannot imagine the hatred you must have encountered from self proclaiming Christians to make you view these groups as you now do; for that you have my deepest and most sincere apology. Thank you for your time.
Christian

]]> By: Timothy Kincaid http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/11/19/6768/comment-page-1#comment-25233 Timothy Kincaid Fri, 21 Nov 2008 01:07:05 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=6768#comment-25233 Sharon, Read the commentary posted above as well as that linked to get the story. Sharon,

Read the commentary posted above as well as that linked to get the story.

]]> By: Michael http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/11/19/6768/comment-page-1#comment-25226 Michael Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:45:14 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=6768#comment-25226 It's these kinds of lies that will put followers of Jesus in concentration camps in the next couple decades. It’s these kinds of lies that will put followers of Jesus in concentration camps in the next couple decades.

]]> By: SharonB http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/11/19/6768/comment-page-1#comment-25225 SharonB Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:43:48 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=6768#comment-25225 Seriously, any truth to this? http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2008/nov/08111816.html La Barbara has to get his blabs in there, natch. Seriously, any truth to this?
http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2008/nov/08111816.html

La Barbara has to get his blabs in there, natch.

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