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	<title>Comments on: Homosexual Mob Violence?</title>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/12/08/7152/comment-page-1#comment-27125</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 23:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ironically, peaceful protests are very important to the stability of a society.  If the Becket cabal was successful in prohibiting GLBT people (and anyone else with a grievance) from protesting discrimination and seeking redress, they would be leaving agrieved parties with few other recourses than violence.  Many societies around the world dealing with violent insurections and insurgencies created the insurgencies themselves by not giving the people other legitimate options.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ironically, peaceful protests are very important to the stability of a society.  If the Becket cabal was successful in prohibiting GLBT people (and anyone else with a grievance) from protesting discrimination and seeking redress, they would be leaving agrieved parties with few other recourses than violence.  Many societies around the world dealing with violent insurections and insurgencies created the insurgencies themselves by not giving the people other legitimate options.</p>
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		<title>By: a. mcewen</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/12/08/7152/comment-page-1#comment-27064</link>
		<dc:creator>a. mcewen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 13:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Tim.

I left a polite comment there too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Tim.</p>
<p>I left a polite comment there too.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/12/08/7152/comment-page-1#comment-27041</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 04:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alvin,

They also have a blog which I believe accepts comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alvin,</p>
<p>They also have a blog which I believe accepts comments.</p>
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		<title>By: a. mcewen</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/12/08/7152/comment-page-1#comment-27037</link>
		<dc:creator>a. mcewen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 03:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I left a polite comment at the Becket Fund web page pointing out the lies about the Bash Back incident. 

I don&#039;t think it will appear either but I gotta tell ya, I am loving the way our community have responded to this ad. Everyone swarmed all over it, not with counterproductive forms of anger, but a righteous indignation and a intelligent method to tell the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I left a polite comment at the Becket Fund web page pointing out the lies about the Bash Back incident. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think it will appear either but I gotta tell ya, I am loving the way our community have responded to this ad. Everyone swarmed all over it, not with counterproductive forms of anger, but a righteous indignation and a intelligent method to tell the truth.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/12/08/7152/comment-page-1#comment-27032</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 02:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Disruption. A group called Bash Back! disrupted services at an Evangelical church in Lansing, Michigan.&quot;

This actually turned out to be largely false.

http://michiganmessenger.com/8298/cops-contradict-reports-of-mt-hope-church-protest

I notified one anti-gay group of this but they never responded.  I didn&#039;t try contacting any others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Disruption. A group called Bash Back! disrupted services at an Evangelical church in Lansing, Michigan.&#8221;</p>
<p>This actually turned out to be largely false.</p>
<p><a href="http://michiganmessenger.com/8298/cops-contradict-reports-of-mt-hope-church-protest" rel="nofollow">http://michiganmessenger.com/8298/cops-contradict-reports-of-mt-hope-church-protest</a></p>
<p>I notified one anti-gay group of this but they never responded.  I didn&#8217;t try contacting any others.</p>
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		<title>By: libhomo</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/12/08/7152/comment-page-1#comment-27031</link>
		<dc:creator>libhomo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 02:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obviously, religious extremists don&#039;t think lying is immoral.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously, religious extremists don&#8217;t think lying is immoral.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Burroway</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/12/08/7152/comment-page-1#comment-27026</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Burroway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 00:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meanwhile, there have been &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/11/16/6601&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;several hundred&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/11/15/6345&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;peaceful protests&lt;/a&gt; throughout California and across the country -- a remarkable achievement in non-violence.  

But clearly, any kind of protest, no matter how peaceful, will be denounced as &quot;violent&quot; and &quot;mob rule.&quot; Which, of course, were the same charges levied against Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meanwhile, there have been <a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/11/16/6601" rel="nofollow" class="articleLink">several hundred</a> <a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/11/15/6345" rel="nofollow" class="articleLink">peaceful protests</a> throughout California and across the country &#8212; a remarkable achievement in non-violence.  </p>
<p>But clearly, any kind of protest, no matter how peaceful, will be denounced as &#8220;violent&#8221; and &#8220;mob rule.&#8221; Which, of course, were the same charges levied against Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/12/08/7152/comment-page-1#comment-27023</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 00:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The blog at NoMobRule is, at least ostensibly, open for comments.  Earlier today I left one, including a link to a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.popehat.com/2008/12/08/ambiguity-rushes-in-where-candor-fears-to-tread/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;blog post I wrote today&lt;/a&gt; about how the advertisement was fundamentally dishonest because it used ambiguity to conflate violence with nonviolent protests and boycotts.  I challenged the Becket organization to stop hiding behind the skirts of vagueness and, if they really think that protests and boycotts are beyond the scope of acceptable discourse, say so openly and support it.

About six hours later my comment has not appeared.  Not holding my breath.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The blog at NoMobRule is, at least ostensibly, open for comments.  Earlier today I left one, including a link to a <a href="http://www.popehat.com/2008/12/08/ambiguity-rushes-in-where-candor-fears-to-tread/" rel="nofollow">blog post I wrote today</a> about how the advertisement was fundamentally dishonest because it used ambiguity to conflate violence with nonviolent protests and boycotts.  I challenged the Becket organization to stop hiding behind the skirts of vagueness and, if they really think that protests and boycotts are beyond the scope of acceptable discourse, say so openly and support it.</p>
<p>About six hours later my comment has not appeared.  Not holding my breath.</p>
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