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	<title>Comments on: Anti-Gay Activist Maggie Gallagher Defends El Coyote&#8217;s Margie Christoffersen</title>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/12/12/7313/comment-page-1#comment-29182</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 20:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom,

No I don&#039;t think she took cash.

She was paid by the Bush administration to support his &quot;healthy family&quot; programs in her column and in testimony before Congress.  She failed to disclose this, and when she was confronted she tried to pass it off as an accident and that she would have supported them anyway.

So yes, she has long since lost all integrity and is pretty much discredited.  But I think your details were a bit off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom,</p>
<p>No I don&#8217;t think she took cash.</p>
<p>She was paid by the Bush administration to support his &#8220;healthy family&#8221; programs in her column and in testimony before Congress.  She failed to disclose this, and when she was confronted she tried to pass it off as an accident and that she would have supported them anyway.</p>
<p>So yes, she has long since lost all integrity and is pretty much discredited.  But I think your details were a bit off.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom in Lazybrook</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom in Lazybrook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 03:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But being nice and sweet certainly isn&#039;t doing us any good.  So some of us are going to try being a little less nice.  And a LOT less patient.  

BTW, isn&#039;t Maggie Gallagher the same woman who took undisclosed CASH payments to write &#039;independent&#039; articles supporting her secret donors?  Wouldn&#039;t that make her pretty much a discredited writer?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But being nice and sweet certainly isn&#8217;t doing us any good.  So some of us are going to try being a little less nice.  And a LOT less patient.  </p>
<p>BTW, isn&#8217;t Maggie Gallagher the same woman who took undisclosed CASH payments to write &#8216;independent&#8217; articles supporting her secret donors?  Wouldn&#8217;t that make her pretty much a discredited writer?</p>
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		<title>By: warhed</title>
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		<dc:creator>warhed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 01:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You and your anti gay organization have  become hate mongers by intimidating and destroying people just because of their beliefs.... without a doubt, history has shown you will lose that battle. I suggest a more subtle approach if you want to enter the mainstrem. In the words of Ghandi, hate has never, ever won in  the long term. Think about it- is that not amazing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You and your anti gay organization have  become hate mongers by intimidating and destroying people just because of their beliefs&#8230;. without a doubt, history has shown you will lose that battle. I suggest a more subtle approach if you want to enter the mainstrem. In the words of Ghandi, hate has never, ever won in  the long term. Think about it- is that not amazing?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Goodman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Goodman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 17:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Jesurgislac,

In answer to your question, I provided the links that came up on Google.  My intension was to be helpful to our mutual cause.  I am a counselor, and obviously, not a computer expert.  Frankly, I felt hurt to read your characterization of my efforts as &quot;appallingly-broken links.&quot;  I understand that emotions are high right now, and people have a lot of justifiable anger.  Let&#039;s be careful, though, to not direct that anger unnecessarily onto each other. That is exactly what our opponents want.

Re: your next point, I think it is very important that we understand our opponents psychologically.  This gives us insights we need to create and utilize strategies that are effective in managing them.  This is one of the big mistakes of the &quot;No on 8&quot; campaign.  Our leadership did not understand our opponents and we lost, at least in part, as a result.  More important than this, though, we need to change the nature of our fight.  For too long we have allowed ourselves to be on the defensive.  This needs to change.  Instead, we need to be scrutinizing our opponents and then using the same weapons (&quot;tradition&quot; and the Bible)they use against us on them. This is what African-Americans did in the Civil Rights Movement, and it worked.

Finally, I read your blog.  You are very smart, and have a lot to contribute.  I really hope we can work together to achieve our mutual goals.  For me, that is full equality for all GLBT people throughout the world.

Warm regards,

Robert</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Jesurgislac,</p>
<p>In answer to your question, I provided the links that came up on Google.  My intension was to be helpful to our mutual cause.  I am a counselor, and obviously, not a computer expert.  Frankly, I felt hurt to read your characterization of my efforts as &#8220;appallingly-broken links.&#8221;  I understand that emotions are high right now, and people have a lot of justifiable anger.  Let&#8217;s be careful, though, to not direct that anger unnecessarily onto each other. That is exactly what our opponents want.</p>
<p>Re: your next point, I think it is very important that we understand our opponents psychologically.  This gives us insights we need to create and utilize strategies that are effective in managing them.  This is one of the big mistakes of the &#8220;No on 8&#8243; campaign.  Our leadership did not understand our opponents and we lost, at least in part, as a result.  More important than this, though, we need to change the nature of our fight.  For too long we have allowed ourselves to be on the defensive.  This needs to change.  Instead, we need to be scrutinizing our opponents and then using the same weapons (&#8220;tradition&#8221; and the Bible)they use against us on them. This is what African-Americans did in the Civil Rights Movement, and it worked.</p>
<p>Finally, I read your blog.  You are very smart, and have a lot to contribute.  I really hope we can work together to achieve our mutual goals.  For me, that is full equality for all GLBT people throughout the world.</p>
<p>Warm regards,</p>
<p>Robert</p>
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		<title>By: Jesurgislac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jesurgislac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 09:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure why Robert would have provided those appallingly-broken links to googlecache instead of to active posts, but here&#039;s the fixed link to my post on &lt;a href=&quot;http://jesurgislac.wordpress.com/2008/06/18/maggie-gallagher-redefines-marriage/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Maggie Gallagher redefines marriage&lt;/a&gt;. 

Though I think there&#039;s no need to dig for complex psychological reasons: others besides Gallagher have declared that marriage = the ability to have babies together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure why Robert would have provided those appallingly-broken links to googlecache instead of to active posts, but here&#8217;s the fixed link to my post on <a href="http://jesurgislac.wordpress.com/2008/06/18/maggie-gallagher-redefines-marriage/" rel="nofollow">Maggie Gallagher redefines marriage</a>. </p>
<p>Though I think there&#8217;s no need to dig for complex psychological reasons: others besides Gallagher have declared that marriage = the ability to have babies together.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks, Robert</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks, Robert</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Goodman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Goodman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Timothy.  Here are just a few.  For more, just go to Google and type &quot;maggie gallagher&quot; + &quot;single mother&quot;  Warm regards, Bob

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maggie_Gallagher

http://archive.salon.com/sex/feature/2000/10/30/marriage/index.html

http://daisysdeadair.blogspot.com/2008/12/i-aint-gonna-work-on-maggies-farm-no.html

http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:duHnYbs73BgJ:jesurgislac.wordpress.com/2008/06/18/maggie-gallagher-redefines-marriage/+%22maggie+gallagher%22+%2B+%22single+mother%22&amp;hl=en&amp;ct=clnk&amp;cd=15&amp;gl=us

1.	Maggie seems to be really obsessed with the “sex makes babies” mantra. She revealed why when debated Dale Carpenter at the Cato Institute back in 2006. We reported on it here:
http://www.equalityloudoun.org/?p=337
“Maggie Gallagher told her personal story at the Cato Institute forum in June. It seems that she had premarital sex, was impregnated, and was unable to convince the father to marry her. Her feeling of victimization as a single mother is what drives her mission to return the institution of marriage to its former role as authoritarian regulator of all sexuality. If same sex couples are denied the dignity and security of legal recognition, and GLBT people are demonized in the process, that’s just collateral damage…”
Comment by Jonathan — June 19, 2008 @ 3:11 am 
http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:q4-bAblPeP8J:www.bookrags.com/wiki/Maggie_Gallagher+%22maggie+gallagher%22+%2B+%22single+mother%22&amp;hl=en&amp;ct=clnk&amp;cd=19&amp;gl=us</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Timothy.  Here are just a few.  For more, just go to Google and type &#8220;maggie gallagher&#8221; + &#8220;single mother&#8221;  Warm regards, Bob</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maggie_Gallagher" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maggie_Gallagher</a></p>
<p><a href="http://archive.salon.com/sex/feature/2000/10/30/marriage/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://archive.salon.com/sex/feature/2000/10/30/marriage/index.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://daisysdeadair.blogspot.com/2008/12/i-aint-gonna-work-on-maggies-farm-no.html" rel="nofollow">http://daisysdeadair.blogspot.com/2008/12/i-aint-gonna-work-on-maggies-farm-no.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:duHnYbs73BgJ:jesurgislac.wordpress.com/2008/06/18/maggie-gallagher-redefines-marriage/+%22maggie+gallagher%22+%2B+%22single+mother%22&#038;hl=en&#038;ct=clnk&#038;cd=15&#038;gl=us" rel="nofollow">http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:duHnYbs73BgJ:jesurgislac.wordpress.com/2008/06/18/maggie-gallagher-redefines-marriage/+%22maggie+gallagher%22+%2B+%22single+mother%22&#038;hl=en&#038;ct=clnk&#038;cd=15&#038;gl=us</a></p>
<p>1.	Maggie seems to be really obsessed with the “sex makes babies” mantra. She revealed why when debated Dale Carpenter at the Cato Institute back in 2006. We reported on it here:<br />
<a href="http://www.equalityloudoun.org/?p=337" rel="nofollow">http://www.equalityloudoun.org/?p=337</a><br />
“Maggie Gallagher told her personal story at the Cato Institute forum in June. It seems that she had premarital sex, was impregnated, and was unable to convince the father to marry her. Her feeling of victimization as a single mother is what drives her mission to return the institution of marriage to its former role as authoritarian regulator of all sexuality. If same sex couples are denied the dignity and security of legal recognition, and GLBT people are demonized in the process, that’s just collateral damage…”<br />
Comment by Jonathan — June 19, 2008 @ 3:11 am<br />
<a href="http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:q4-bAblPeP8J:www.bookrags.com/wiki/Maggie_Gallagher+%22maggie+gallagher%22+%2B+%22single+mother%22&#038;hl=en&#038;ct=clnk&#038;cd=19&#038;gl=us" rel="nofollow">http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:q4-bAblPeP8J:www.bookrags.com/wiki/Maggie_Gallagher+%22maggie+gallagher%22+%2B+%22single+mother%22&#038;hl=en&#038;ct=clnk&#038;cd=19&#038;gl=us</a></p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert,

Please provide a source for your information about Maggie Gallagher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert,</p>
<p>Please provide a source for your information about Maggie Gallagher.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Goodman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Goodman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>O.k.  I just had to comment on this.  Let&#039;s talk about one, Maggie Gallagher!
I did a little internet searching on this woman after I saw her on a recent Dr. Phil show.  What I leared was, this woman, who claims to support &quot;traditional marriage&quot; and is pointing the finger at everyone and telling them how to live: 1) got knocked up in college (A SIN, the last time I read the Bible), had at least one child out of wedlock (ANOTHER SIN), either refused to marry the father or he refused to marry her, then lived FOR 10 YEARS as a single mother!  What a hypocrite!  If this was the 17th century and we were REALLY practicing &quot;traditional marriage&quot; Ms. Gallagher would have be a social outcast, living in shame with a big scarlet letter A plaster across her ass!  We don&#039;t have to take anything from this woman.  All of these Yes on 8 people are full of shadows and hate.  All we have to do is move the interrogator&#039;s spot light from us TO THEM...AND THEN WATCH THEM SWIRM!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>O.k.  I just had to comment on this.  Let&#8217;s talk about one, Maggie Gallagher!<br />
I did a little internet searching on this woman after I saw her on a recent Dr. Phil show.  What I leared was, this woman, who claims to support &#8220;traditional marriage&#8221; and is pointing the finger at everyone and telling them how to live: 1) got knocked up in college (A SIN, the last time I read the Bible), had at least one child out of wedlock (ANOTHER SIN), either refused to marry the father or he refused to marry her, then lived FOR 10 YEARS as a single mother!  What a hypocrite!  If this was the 17th century and we were REALLY practicing &#8220;traditional marriage&#8221; Ms. Gallagher would have be a social outcast, living in shame with a big scarlet letter A plaster across her ass!  We don&#8217;t have to take anything from this woman.  All of these Yes on 8 people are full of shadows and hate.  All we have to do is move the interrogator&#8217;s spot light from us TO THEM&#8230;AND THEN WATCH THEM SWIRM!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ryan,

Steve Lopez is not exactly a journalist.  He&#039;s a columnist who, in my experience, isn&#039;t very careful about his facts.

This bleeding heart for the victim (whomever he as assigned as victim) is pretty typical of his writing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan,</p>
<p>Steve Lopez is not exactly a journalist.  He&#8217;s a columnist who, in my experience, isn&#8217;t very careful about his facts.</p>
<p>This bleeding heart for the victim (whomever he as assigned as victim) is pretty typical of his writing.</p>
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