Kevin, you’re a hero.

No wonder she’s singing a different tune now that SHE’s the one who stands to lose something.

Read more: Tacos, with a side of bigotry

Yeah, another homophobe claims that it was all about retaining exclusive heterosexual control of the word marriage. Of course, he’s complaining about our freedom of assembly, freedom of speech, right to due process, as well as our right to marry.

Trouble is, they lost the battle for the word even as they won their amendments in California, Arizona and Florida, and some twenty plus other states. They took the license away, but lost the word.

Language is a very fluid thing, and the meanings of words are defined as much, if not more, by usage and context, than by dictionaries, scholars, or even civil violence in the voting booth. Every time opponents of equal rights for GLBTQ people used the phrase ‘gay marriage’ or ‘same-sex marriage’ – they reinforced the concept at the unconscious level. People having been hearing “same-sex marriage” so much, that even homophobes are thinking that our relationships are marriage. The concepts “same-sex” and “marriage” are irrevocably married now. It is only a matter of time until the law catches up with language.

Prop 8 supporters, and their peers and predecessors, didn’t ban “same-sex shacking up”, nor did they ban “same-sex cohabitation”. They didn’t make a new word for us and then ban that. No, they applied the word “marriage” to us and our relationships, called our relationships a kind of marriage, and then proceed to prevent the licensing of that kind of marriage.

Two men in love, or two women in love, are not “just friends” anymore, or “longtime companions”; we’re married, denied a license; thanks in no small part to the anti-gay propoganda.

And I believe that ultimately, the license will follow, same-sex marriage will be legal across the U.S. It may take months or years or decades. During that time, GLBTQ people will be harmed by the lack of that simple contract, and more enough het people will notice. Eventually, opposition to same-sex marriage will be seen not as a matter of ethics or beliefs or sophistry, but for what it really is – petty sadism, a hate crime, mob violence for the sole purpose of harming millions of people just a little bit longer.

They gave us the word. Our relationships are in the dictionaries as part of the definition of “marriage”, our relationships are a common usage of the word marriage.

Mr. Finch, my husband and I are married, we just don’t have the license.

“Funny how anything opposed or seen as opposing the gay agenda is targetted.”

The word “anything” is all inclusive, if there is even one contrary example, its use is a lie. There are thousands of examples of GLBTQ people ignoring minor attacks on our lives and liberty, so, your claim is a lie.

“Do you really think that putting a business owner out of business will ever win you support ?”

Actually, yes. It indicates to people who are on the fence, that this is serious, it isn’t the trivial matter homophobes make it out to be. Humans tend to judge actions by their reactions, and the furor over Prop 8 makes it clear – Prop 8 is a hate crime.

“After all, we are talking about a mere $100 donation, which is nothing more than a token gift,”

Hey, $100 will buy a lot of yard signs, a lot of postage for mass mailings.

“but so easy for those of you willing to boycott and picket the place”

So easy of you to forget that we still have the right to decide how we will spend our income.

“to overlook the gay employee’s,”

That’s not a very accurate claim, actually. First, you cannot know whether any decision is easy for anyone else, unless they tell you. Here on this blog is a wealth of posts and comments detailing how difficult a decision it was. Bearing false witness is a sin, Mr. Finch.

“Since when has it become a crime to hold to your beliefs ?”

First, it becomes a crime to hold to one’s beliefs whenever those beliefs lead to inflicting harm. So, for a convenient example, the Mormons in Texas who still believe that polygamy is God’s will, commit crimes when they take additional wives.

Further, this is not about Margie holding to her beliefs, but, rather, about Margie forcing millions of other people to hold to her beliefs, contrary to their own, through her donation. Please try to be honest. It will help.

“And I know you hate hearing it,”
Mind-reading is kinda forbidden by the Bible in the charges against sorcerers and witches and fortune-tellers. I suggest you stop.

“the laws of God haven’t changed,”

Such as “thou shalt not bear false witness”, but that hasn’t stopped you. And God’s law “Love your neighbor as yourself” not only condemns Prop 8, donating to support Prop 8, and your post, it does not condemn homosexuality.

“neither has his views of your lifestyle.”
What exactly does the Bible say about being a blogger? The Bible is silent on homosexuality, when it is translated accurately and read in context.

“It isn’t hate in all cases,”
Sometimes it is ignorance, as well as hate.

“the gay activists have done a very poor job at separating the haters from those true to their beliefs.”

Haters are true to their beliefs. Of course, your claim is false, for GLBTQ people have been extremely patient, compared to homophobes and conservative Christians.

“This act alone..much less others in the past prove you to be the sheltered ungracious and immature whiners that the general masses don’t like.”

You are bearing false witness again, as well as violating Jesus’s teachings. It is important for you to realize that your lies and slanders do not fool anyone.

“I don’t mind people all having equal rights, pay, benefits…but to my beliefs, I can’t stand by and see you defame the word “marriage”.”

The second half of your sentence proves that the first half is a lie.

“But then again, no one said you can’t have your own word for the same union.”

Wrong again. With your batting average, back to the minor leagues. The CA Supreme Court ruling made it very clear, the word itself carries so much weight, creating a separate, equal institution would still deprive GLBTQ people of fully equality.

I have some sad news for you too, in the next post.

“Your activists are shooting your cause in the foot through their arrogance, through their selfish ungracious acts and by trying to force their agenda down everyone’s throats with impunity.”

Wrong again. History indicates that strident opposition to injustice is vital. By the way, accusing us of forcing an agenda is worn out cliche of a lie. We did not create any of the anti-gay legislations that force everyone to act as if there was something wrong with homosexuality.

Really, it is pretty arrogant of you to revile our lives, trot out ‘God’s Law’, and then proceed to lie over and over and over again.

“Honey draws more flies than honey my friend, and if you can’t step outside your agenda enough to see the big picture or to know what will work to gain support, perhaps you should stay out of the mix.”

It is tragic, and yet amusingly hypocritical, when someone offers such advise that they clearly do not live.

She never acknowledged the hypocrisy of her church, which willingly took her tithe of ten per cent, and her donation of $100, earned from selling forbidden alcohol and coffee to gay customers….

As a native Angeleno, I hope El Coyote does not disappear; I hope that its customer base returns to support the staff and this historic restaurant. It would be sad to lose a piece of history and have an ugly scar on Beverly Blvd in place of the low slung white adobe building with its iconic neon sign. And to have 89 more people unemployed in a city facing a massive economic downturn.

I feel for Marjorie, that her faith has so harmed her and those who thought of her as a truly compassionate friend. Her world has been shaken; she suddenly learned that her comforting religion rent asunder decades of friendships, her family’s legacy in Los Angeles, and perhaps even caused a chink in her own beliefs.

She and those who were used by their faiths to further a un-American agenda of stripping and denying rights to one set of citizens need our prayers that the scales will fall from their eyes. And those of us concerned about civil marriage rights need to continue to work on levels–practical, political, and spiritual–to secure and insure those rights for all.

It just wouldn’t be the same around here without the always to be expected shout out from Colorado Springs blog trolls.

Tell me, why is it that none of your Christian sites offer open comment sections like this one and practically every other gay blog site does? The ones that do offer them won’t post a comment that contridicts their point of view. Why is that?

You should be thankful that, at the very least, you are allowed to come here and make your misinformed anti-gay comments.

In today’s economy I bet their are tens of thousands of businesses that would give their eye teeth to be “mobbed” by paying customers.

It’s just more of the vilifying and demonizing of gay people. When we express our freedom of speech through our pocket books we are bullies and terrorists but when Margie does it she is a hero and a victim.

When we are enthusiastic in our patronage of a business on a particular night we are “mobbing” the business whereas when straight people do the same they are value reliable customers.

No wonder we can’t catch a break in this culture and society. No matter what we do we are villains, bullies, hate mongers and terrorists.