Comments on: Barney Frank on Warren Pick

By: Roberto

Roberto — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 02:50:58 +0000

Barney’s sending a clear signal – whether planned or not – that he’s intolorant.

Interesting when ‘tolerance’ is asked for, yet Barney cannot give it. This destroys his argument. “Do as I say, not as I do.” This sets back the gay community.

Barney has bigger fish to fry…like maybe the FINANCIAL CRISIS..

As Rodney King said, “Can’t we all just get along?”.

By: N Waff

N Waff — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:57:45 +0000

It’s good to see that Barney Franks follows his homosexual agenda of “inclusion” and doesn’t discriminate against people of other beliefs. I’d hate to see Franks declare the choice of pastor Rick Warren as a mistake for praying in the inauguration just because he holds a Christian Biblical world view. Oops, scratch that – Franks if being a hypocrite.

By: Dennis Veite

Dennis Veite — Sun, 21 Dec 2008 22:35:17 +0000

My apologies, Timothy.

By: Dennis Veite

Dennis Veite — Sun, 21 Dec 2008 22:34:05 +0000

@Hank: Oh, you think???

By: Timothy Kincaid

Timothy Kincaid — Sat, 20 Dec 2008 22:06:29 +0000

Nolan Nelson,

I find it intereting that you bring up the parallel that the Christian body is the bride of Christ. At no point in Scripture are we told that this then feminizes humanity. Never.

You will recall that the audience of this message was primarily male (recall that Paul directs that women enquire from men if they don’t understand the faith). However, this imagery did not seem to bother those who heard it too much.

Perhaps they were less obsessed about the male-female nature of wedding imagery. And that may be because of a dominant Roman culture which was familiar with homosexuality and non-gender-conforming roles.

In any case, I don’t tend to get too caught up in the gender of God. I’m not at all sure why anyone would care whether God has a penis or what he would do with it if he did.

By: Timothy Kincaid

Timothy Kincaid — Sat, 20 Dec 2008 22:01:25 +0000

Dennis,

Box Turtle is a forum for those who disagree as well. We aren’t interested in creating an echo chamber.

By: Dennis Veite

Dennis Veite — Fri, 19 Dec 2008 23:01:28 +0000

@Nolan Nelson, if it’s so damned important to you why are you lurking about on Box Turtle Bulletin? Get off our board and out of our state.

By: Priya Lynn

Priya Lynn — Fri, 19 Dec 2008 19:22:38 +0000

Nolan said “God, continuously addresses the issue of homosexual behavior.”.

Not even close. The bible has a few passages that can be interpreted to be about gays, it is far from a continual address. If it were the bible would be about nothing but gay behavior. On the other hand the bible has over 300 admonitions to heterosexuals.

Nolan said “The scriptures say that in addition to creating all things, God created a single institution, which was marriage between a man and woman as the earthy manifestation of the oneness relationship He seeks with all human beings.”.

It doesn’t say that anywhere in the bible. Adam and Eve were never married and their children engaged in incestuous behavior. Clearly from the beginning marriage was never a part of your god’s plan.

By: Chaz

Chaz — Fri, 19 Dec 2008 16:44:02 +0000

Nicely put by Barney. Are we starting to see Obama’s true colours?

By: Ben in Oakland

Ben in Oakland — Fri, 19 Dec 2008 16:23:26 +0000

Nolan nelson: I won’t get into a theological debate with you. Most of what you have to say is highly debatable. Paraphrasing Humpty Dumpty in Alice, the bible means what I say it means, nothing more and nothing less.

Here’s a real test of faith and truth for you. Rather than beating up on gay people, which is relatively easy, why don’t you go to Iran and explain to any mullah you can find why your faith and interpetations are the correct ones, and a billion muslims are dead wrong.

And if you survive that, then you can come back and read the parts of your book that tell you that it is not your place to judge, nor your right to try to contain your god within the covers of a book.