Comments on: Gay Leader Boycotts the Inauguration

By: Timothy Kincaid

Timothy Kincaid — Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:38:39 +0000

Duncan,

I misunderstood your previous comment. I thought that you were saying that gay couples attend Rick Warren’s church and hold hands. That was the source of my skepticism.

By: Duncan

Duncan — Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:16:08 +0000

Sorry for the delay.
The only source I know is a column from The Economist magazine, though I generally consider these as factually reliable:
Lexington column, “Wright’s wrongs”.
http://www.economist.com/research/articlesBySubject/displaystory.cfm?subjectid=3856663&story_id=11294480
Available without subscription.

By: AdrianT

AdrianT — Sun, 21 Dec 2008 19:24:09 +0000

I would urge LGBT people, rather than boycotting, to consider being there and making that disgust known at the event – in a civil manner – a chorus of ‘shame on you!’, or turning one’s back en-masse, rather than simply not being there. The whole world will be watching you after all.

It seems to be a tradition that after every single election, the winner declares he will reach out as much as possible to the opponents. The goal of achieving unity for unity’s sake is obscene, when it compromises the quest for justice.

By: Timothy Kincaid

Timothy Kincaid — Sun, 21 Dec 2008 18:45:02 +0000

Until presented with evidence I will not take as fact that there are gay couples that hold hands at Saddleback. Please link to a first hand source.

By: Duncan

Duncan — Sun, 21 Dec 2008 14:48:15 +0000

The “religious idiot” that Mr Leahy mentions is welcoming to gay couples and they are often seen holding hands in his church. So I have heard.
And while this is disappointing coming from Mr Obama, would Mrs Clinton (“She has a difficult relationship with the truth”) be any better?

By: Bob Leahy

Bob Leahy — Sun, 21 Dec 2008 01:11:38 +0000

“I was looking forward to hearing a speech by the new President about his vision of a new America and an end to the politics of division where one group is pitted against another.”

Surprise! Now we are all seeing the start of this vision of a new America. This is what happens when people vote for a candidate whose entire platform was “change.” What does change mean? He never specified it – and no one ever asked. We thought it meant change to be more inclusive of gays. This minister doesn’t quite advocate burning gays at the stake. Perhaps he’d like to use a barbeque.

Obama spent more than 10 years attending a church listening to another religious idiot. Everyone wrote it off, and said, “Well, he was just sitting there.” Right. You don’t sit there for a decade if you don’t agree with what the minister is saying.

The last time I looked, Christ never said a word against gays. He did say a lot about loving your enemies. I guess that isn’t in these ministers’ version of the Bible.

By: David C.

David C. — Sun, 21 Dec 2008 00:08:00 +0000

Perhaps some of us in our rush to judgement of Obama have become a victim of our own paranoia. There is another perspective for us to consider here.

By: RomeoandJoe

RomeoandJoe — Sat, 20 Dec 2008 23:10:34 +0000

Obama is screwing the people who voted for him in order to intice the people who didn’t vote for him! Hillary would not have done it. Obama might as well invite David Duke and Louis Farrakhan –make it a three sum! We will watch and check on this WARren character — he must have molested someone or eaten shrimp – forbidden in his bible — or perhaps kept a slave — permitted in his bible!

By: grantdale

grantdale — Sat, 20 Dec 2008 19:14:40 +0000

So do we Timothy.

We wish we could say the same thing about the conviction of your new President.

He was the best of two choices, right?

Time will tell.

Time. Will. Tell.

By: MIchelle

MIchelle — Sat, 20 Dec 2008 13:36:31 +0000

I’m not prior military but I agree with Bill. “Keep your friends close and your enemies closer”. To further elaborate; It’s Obama’s future policies I’m interested in and, if nothing else, the Christian zealots can’t say they didn’t have their chance to speak or weren’t invited to the “party” which would just give them more to whine about.

Though, of course, being a gay “married” native Californian from Orange County, there’s no way I can watch the inauguration without getting ill, but then again, I moved away from the US to get away from all the hate of the last 8 years so I can only hope that America becomes “the Land of the Free” and someday maybe I can return.

It was sad to watch California (my former home) appear as part of the “redneck nation”. But freedom does allow even the most evil amongst us a voice if nothing else, and being free (at least here overseas), I can choose not to listen. Hopefully this is just part of Obama “reaching across” that table.