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	<title>Comments on: Franklin Graham: &#8220;You Hate God and It&#8217;s Good That You Are Upset&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Jason D</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/12/23/7633/comment-page-1#comment-29080</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 21:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Priya, not to drag us off topic again, but the definition you&#039;ve pulled is not substantially different than what I wrote.  Certainly I was less elegant, but the basic gist is the same.


And Yes, Graham is rather odious, isn&#039;t he?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Priya, not to drag us off topic again, but the definition you&#8217;ve pulled is not substantially different than what I wrote.  Certainly I was less elegant, but the basic gist is the same.</p>
<p>And Yes, Graham is rather odious, isn&#8217;t he?</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/12/23/7633/comment-page-1#comment-29070</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 18:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In line with the last few comments, here&#039;s what Bishop Gene Robinson had to say about Rick Warren&#039;s invitation&quot;

&lt;blockquote&gt;“I’m all for Rick Warren being at the table,” Bishop Robinson said, “but we’re not talking about a discussion, we’re talking about putting someone up front and center at what will be the most watched inauguration in history, and asking his blessing on the nation. And the God that he’s praying to is not the God that I know.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In line with the last few comments, here&#8217;s what Bishop Gene Robinson had to say about Rick Warren&#8217;s invitation&#8221;</p>
<blockquote><p>“I’m all for Rick Warren being at the table,” Bishop Robinson said, “but we’re not talking about a discussion, we’re talking about putting someone up front and center at what will be the most watched inauguration in history, and asking his blessing on the nation. And the God that he’s praying to is not the God that I know.”</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Ron Thompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 16:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it would do Franklin a great deal of good to read George MacDonald. His concept of God was much more influenced by love than hate.  It is sad that the ministry of Billy Graham will be handed over to this man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it would do Franklin a great deal of good to read George MacDonald. His concept of God was much more influenced by love than hate.  It is sad that the ministry of Billy Graham will be handed over to this man.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Airhart</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/12/23/7633/comment-page-1#comment-29036</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Airhart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 06:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Moral Majority, Pat Robertson, and Concerned Women for America spent most of the 1980s supporting wars against left-wing Christians and local tribes in Guatemala, El Salvador, and Nicaragua.

Catholic Archbishop Oscar Romero was just one out of tens of thousands of people (actually, more than 100,000 in Guatemala) who were slaughtered.

Despite condemnations by human-rights advocates and Congress, U.S.-trained rightist militias and mercenaries were funded by the likes of Oliver North and fed and clothed with &quot;care packages&quot; from the religious right. They destroyed some left-leaning military targets, but spent much of their time killing civilians and pillaging villages.

Franklin Graham came of age as a religious rightist during that era. Unapologetic for the actions of his peers, it seems he is now an agent of defamation and intended violence against a new generation of Christians who refuse to worship mammon (prosperity and materialism) as he does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Moral Majority, Pat Robertson, and Concerned Women for America spent most of the 1980s supporting wars against left-wing Christians and local tribes in Guatemala, El Salvador, and Nicaragua.</p>
<p>Catholic Archbishop Oscar Romero was just one out of tens of thousands of people (actually, more than 100,000 in Guatemala) who were slaughtered.</p>
<p>Despite condemnations by human-rights advocates and Congress, U.S.-trained rightist militias and mercenaries were funded by the likes of Oliver North and fed and clothed with &#8220;care packages&#8221; from the religious right. They destroyed some left-leaning military targets, but spent much of their time killing civilians and pillaging villages.</p>
<p>Franklin Graham came of age as a religious rightist during that era. Unapologetic for the actions of his peers, it seems he is now an agent of defamation and intended violence against a new generation of Christians who refuse to worship mammon (prosperity and materialism) as he does.</p>
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		<title>By: MR Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/12/23/7633/comment-page-1#comment-29013</link>
		<dc:creator>MR Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 14:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sigh.  Back in the day, I got in an argument with my dad over the pointless Flag Burning controversy.  My dad could simply not get the distinction between the thing (a flag) and what it represents (the country and it&#039;s constitution), and my position that what the US Flag stands for meant that we could, indeed, have to tolerate the occasional abuse of the symbol as an expression.
Mr. Graham is unable to distinguish between his idea about God(a remarkably petty fellow) and the ONE, the creator, the ground of being, the Alpha and Omega.  
The Left doesn&#039;t hate God.  The Leftists I know, some Christian, mostly hate the way people use the concept of God, one&#039;s personal or group view,  as a club, and in a most unJesuslike way.
We have to tolerate his abuse of the concept, but his concept is not the Real Thing, which is greater than any conception.  It&#039;s spiritual arrogance, wrapped in desperate fear and powerseeking.
I hope you all find love and light and joy in a dark time, and hold the new hope we have close.  And may the day Rest ye Merry, Gentlemen and ladies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sigh.  Back in the day, I got in an argument with my dad over the pointless Flag Burning controversy.  My dad could simply not get the distinction between the thing (a flag) and what it represents (the country and it&#8217;s constitution), and my position that what the US Flag stands for meant that we could, indeed, have to tolerate the occasional abuse of the symbol as an expression.<br />
Mr. Graham is unable to distinguish between his idea about God(a remarkably petty fellow) and the ONE, the creator, the ground of being, the Alpha and Omega.<br />
The Left doesn&#8217;t hate God.  The Leftists I know, some Christian, mostly hate the way people use the concept of God, one&#8217;s personal or group view,  as a club, and in a most unJesuslike way.<br />
We have to tolerate his abuse of the concept, but his concept is not the Real Thing, which is greater than any conception.  It&#8217;s spiritual arrogance, wrapped in desperate fear and powerseeking.<br />
I hope you all find love and light and joy in a dark time, and hold the new hope we have close.  And may the day Rest ye Merry, Gentlemen and ladies.</p>
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		<title>By: HappyCat</title>
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		<dc:creator>HappyCat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 09:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a bunch of idiots.  I read at The Peter&#039;s Place we are Christ-a-phobes.  Now we hate god.  The lables Homophobe and Bigot must really get under their skin.

Mr. Frnklin, I am not a chrisr-a-phobe and I don&#039;t hate My God.  But your god is a complete dipshit and has to be full of hate.  My God and the faith from her tells me to LOVE all people, and accept ALL people for who they are. You just happen to be a Homophobe and a Bigot.  Deal with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a bunch of idiots.  I read at The Peter&#8217;s Place we are Christ-a-phobes.  Now we hate god.  The lables Homophobe and Bigot must really get under their skin.</p>
<p>Mr. Frnklin, I am not a chrisr-a-phobe and I don&#8217;t hate My God.  But your god is a complete dipshit and has to be full of hate.  My God and the faith from her tells me to LOVE all people, and accept ALL people for who they are. You just happen to be a Homophobe and a Bigot.  Deal with it.</p>
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		<title>By: LindaBinda</title>
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		<dc:creator>LindaBinda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 07:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Franklin Graham&#039;s a hateful ass, whether it concerns gays, or in the past, non-Christians as well.  Read up on what he had to say about Islam right after 9/11.  He pretty much said that the Koran was an evil pagan war manual written by moon-god worshippers.  Of course, he apologized after he got a lot of flak for it, but personally, I&#039;d take Graham thinking I or any other atheist is a god-hater to be a &lt;i&gt;compliment.&lt;/i&gt;  Other than the woefully large amounts of people who listen to him and take his words to heart, he&#039;s not worth the consideration or trouble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Franklin Graham&#8217;s a hateful ass, whether it concerns gays, or in the past, non-Christians as well.  Read up on what he had to say about Islam right after 9/11.  He pretty much said that the Koran was an evil pagan war manual written by moon-god worshippers.  Of course, he apologized after he got a lot of flak for it, but personally, I&#8217;d take Graham thinking I or any other atheist is a god-hater to be a <i>compliment.</i>  Other than the woefully large amounts of people who listen to him and take his words to heart, he&#8217;s not worth the consideration or trouble.</p>
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		<title>By: Buffy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buffy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 04:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People like Graham love playing the victim both on behalf of themselves and their god.  We don&#039;t hate their god--I don&#039;t even believe in him so how could I hate him?  It would be like hating the Tooth Fairy or Santa Claus.  What I find disgusting is the way some of his followers see fit to spew hatred in his name and eradicate the rights of others based on selected Bible verses while they conveniently ignore others (even entire books).  I don&#039;t see them executing adulterers, demanding divorce be outlawed or putting disobedient children to death.  And they certainly aren&#039;t worried about lying, which is one of the Commandments they break constantly.  But those pesky homos are Public Enemy #1.  

They need to mind the beams in their own eyes and leave the specks in our eyes alone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People like Graham love playing the victim both on behalf of themselves and their god.  We don&#8217;t hate their god&#8211;I don&#8217;t even believe in him so how could I hate him?  It would be like hating the Tooth Fairy or Santa Claus.  What I find disgusting is the way some of his followers see fit to spew hatred in his name and eradicate the rights of others based on selected Bible verses while they conveniently ignore others (even entire books).  I don&#8217;t see them executing adulterers, demanding divorce be outlawed or putting disobedient children to death.  And they certainly aren&#8217;t worried about lying, which is one of the Commandments they break constantly.  But those pesky homos are Public Enemy #1.  </p>
<p>They need to mind the beams in their own eyes and leave the specks in our eyes alone.</p>
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		<title>By: homer</title>
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		<dc:creator>homer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 00:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He is not his father.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He is not his father.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/12/23/7633/comment-page-1#comment-28955</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aaaaaaand were back to the subject of the thread.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaaaaaand were back to the subject of the thread.</p>
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