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	<title>Comments on: AFA Steamed Over Campbell Soup Ad</title>
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		<title>By: g</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/12/26/7685/comment-page-1#comment-30154</link>
		<dc:creator>g</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 14:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What happened to Campbell Soup Company and family values! The founder of Campbell Soup Co., Dr. John T. Dorrance in 1914 would be turning in his grave right now if he knew! Campbell Soup Co. get back to the values that your founder and company first imagined and it does not include a &quot;two&quot; mommy and no daddy household!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What happened to Campbell Soup Company and family values! The founder of Campbell Soup Co., Dr. John T. Dorrance in 1914 would be turning in his grave right now if he knew! Campbell Soup Co. get back to the values that your founder and company first imagined and it does not include a &#8220;two&#8221; mommy and no daddy household!</p>
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		<title>By: Danny in Alabama</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/12/26/7685/comment-page-1#comment-30059</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny in Alabama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 16:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just sent an email of support to Campbells...using an email address I found on AFA&#039;s own website haha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just sent an email of support to Campbells&#8230;using an email address I found on AFA&#8217;s own website haha</p>
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		<title>By: Emproph</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/12/26/7685/comment-page-1#comment-29434</link>
		<dc:creator>Emproph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 06:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;“Or was that just an anomoly?”&lt;/I&gt;

This should answer your question, Timothy:

P 82-3:
&lt;blockquote&gt;To the homosexual, as to all others, we must speak in love, never in hatred. But the first task of love is to tell the truth, and the sign of true hatred is the telling of a lie.&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

&lt;I&gt;“I wonder if Mohler actually knows (and intended) the technical definition of this phrase:”&lt;/I&gt;

David C., yes, essentially he did - in order to assert that a person’s sexuality is due to nurture alone.

And Ben, I’m working on  a review to highlight the level of, and types of deceit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>“Or was that just an anomoly?”</i></p>
<p>This should answer your question, Timothy:</p>
<p>P 82-3:</p>
<blockquote><p>To the homosexual, as to all others, we must speak in love, never in hatred. But the first task of love is to tell the truth, and the sign of true hatred is the telling of a lie.</p></blockquote>
<p><i>“I wonder if Mohler actually knows (and intended) the technical definition of this phrase:”</i></p>
<p>David C., yes, essentially he did &#8211; in order to assert that a person’s sexuality is due to nurture alone.</p>
<p>And Ben, I’m working on  a review to highlight the level of, and types of deceit.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben in Oakland</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/12/26/7685/comment-page-1#comment-29377</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben in Oakland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 23:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Emproph-- the title of mohler&#039;s book desire and deceit, would be tragic if the Christian right weren&#039;t so desirous of being deceitful. As it is, it&#039;s merely funny.

are we talking aobut ted Haggard and Larry craigs brand of desire and deceit?

Are we talking about yeson8&#039;s brand of deceit?

Are we talking aobut the whole ex-gay industry&#039;s brand of deceit?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emproph&#8211; the title of mohler&#8217;s book desire and deceit, would be tragic if the Christian right weren&#8217;t so desirous of being deceitful. As it is, it&#8217;s merely funny.</p>
<p>are we talking aobut ted Haggard and Larry craigs brand of desire and deceit?</p>
<p>Are we talking about yeson8&#8217;s brand of deceit?</p>
<p>Are we talking aobut the whole ex-gay industry&#8217;s brand of deceit?</p>
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		<title>By: David C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>David C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 00:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if Mohler actually knows (and intended) the technical definition of this phrase:
&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;b&gt;polymorphous perverse&lt;/b&gt;  (adj.):
: relating to or exhibiting infantile sexual tendencies in which the genitals are not yet identified as the sole or principal sexual organs nor coitus as the goal of erotic activity. &lt;i&gt;(Merriam-Webster Unabridged)&lt;/i&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If so, &lt;i&gt;that&#039;s&lt;/i&gt; an interesting slight.  I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve ever been put down quite that clinically.  What an asinine and pedantic bully.  Probably an insufferable hypocrite, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if Mohler actually knows (and intended) the technical definition of this phrase:</p>
<blockquote><p>
<b>polymorphous perverse</b>  (adj.):<br />
: relating to or exhibiting infantile sexual tendencies in which the genitals are not yet identified as the sole or principal sexual organs nor coitus as the goal of erotic activity. <i>(Merriam-Webster Unabridged)</i>
</p></blockquote>
<p>If so, <i>that&#8217;s</i> an interesting slight.  I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve ever been put down quite that clinically.  What an asinine and pedantic bully.  Probably an insufferable hypocrite, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 22:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Emproph,

It looks as though Mohler&#039;s writing for media consumption and public image is a bit different than his preaching to the choir in his books.  I&#039;ve always found him to be one of the more moderate anti-gays but it looks like he&#039;s pretty quick to whip out terms like &quot;polymorphous perversity&quot; when the newspapers aren&#039;t around.

Or was that just an anomoly?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emproph,</p>
<p>It looks as though Mohler&#8217;s writing for media consumption and public image is a bit different than his preaching to the choir in his books.  I&#8217;ve always found him to be one of the more moderate anti-gays but it looks like he&#8217;s pretty quick to whip out terms like &#8220;polymorphous perversity&#8221; when the newspapers aren&#8217;t around.</p>
<p>Or was that just an anomoly?</p>
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		<title>By: Emproph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emproph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 21:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just read &lt;a href=&quot;http://albertmohler.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Al Mohler&lt;/a&gt;&#039;s book &lt;i&gt;&quot;Desire and Deceit; The Real Cost of the New Sexual Tolerance.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Apparently he feels the same way as the AFA. 

From page 151-2:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Many Christians would be shocked to see how some companies who carefully manage their wholesome images advertise to the homosexual community. Many of these are corporations whose names we know and whose products we buy, but they present an entirely different face when extending themselves to the culture of polymorphous perversity.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read <a href="http://albertmohler.com/" rel="nofollow">Al Mohler</a>&#8217;s book <i>&#8220;Desire and Deceit; The Real Cost of the New Sexual Tolerance.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Apparently he feels the same way as the AFA. </p>
<p>From page 151-2:</p>
<blockquote><p>Many Christians would be shocked to see how some companies who carefully manage their wholesome images advertise to the homosexual community. Many of these are corporations whose names we know and whose products we buy, but they present an entirely different face when extending themselves to the culture of polymorphous perversity.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/12/26/7685/comment-page-1#comment-29231</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 17:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The main comment page for Campbell&#039;s Soup is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.campbellsoupcompany.com/contact_form.asp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.

The AFA is listing the contact info as:

Douglas R. Conant, President 
Campbell Soup Company 
Campbell Place
Camden, NJ  08103 
Phone: 1-800-442-7684
or: 1-800-257-8443
E-Mail: douglas_r_conant@cambellsoup.com 

Conant may be getting a deluge of nutjob emails so if you decide to use that method, I&#039;d advise that you put &quot;THANK YOU FOR THE ADVOCATE AD&quot; in the message or something else that clearly shows support.  Something less specific may be counted as part of the anti-gay AFA effort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The main comment page for Campbell&#8217;s Soup is <a href="http://www.campbellsoupcompany.com/contact_form.asp" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
<p>The AFA is listing the contact info as:</p>
<p>Douglas R. Conant, President<br />
Campbell Soup Company<br />
Campbell Place<br />
Camden, NJ  08103<br />
Phone: 1-800-442-7684<br />
or: 1-800-257-8443<br />
E-Mail: <a href="mailto:douglas_r_conant@cambellsoup.com">douglas_r_conant@cambellsoup.com</a> </p>
<p>Conant may be getting a deluge of nutjob emails so if you decide to use that method, I&#8217;d advise that you put &#8220;THANK YOU FOR THE ADVOCATE AD&#8221; in the message or something else that clearly shows support.  Something less specific may be counted as part of the anti-gay AFA effort.</p>
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		<title>By: oakland753</title>
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		<dc:creator>oakland753</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can BTB provide us with the contact information for Campbell´s Soup so we can send our emails, letters, and phone calls in thanks for these wonderful family advertisements?  If Wildmon protests with his group, those of us who support this company should let them know.  Buying the products is nice and necessary also, but the company does not know what type of person is purchasing the product at the grocery store.  We need to let them hear from more of us than they do from the anti-family Baptist groups.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can BTB provide us with the contact information for Campbell´s Soup so we can send our emails, letters, and phone calls in thanks for these wonderful family advertisements?  If Wildmon protests with his group, those of us who support this company should let them know.  Buying the products is nice and necessary also, but the company does not know what type of person is purchasing the product at the grocery store.  We need to let them hear from more of us than they do from the anti-family Baptist groups.</p>
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		<title>By: Regan DuCasse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Regan DuCasse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 18:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or, maybe the bigger point is: if gay parents are producing and nurturing happy and healthy children, then the opposition has NOTHING to worry about and they can all go home and deal with the homes where children actually ARE in misery.

 

  Seriously, these stupid people are an embarassment when it comes to their priorities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or, maybe the bigger point is: if gay parents are producing and nurturing happy and healthy children, then the opposition has NOTHING to worry about and they can all go home and deal with the homes where children actually ARE in misery.</p>
<p>  Seriously, these stupid people are an embarassment when it comes to their priorities.</p>
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