Comments on: Religious Business, Public Access, and Discrimination

By: The Gender Junkie: Marriage Equality has some serious hurdles, remember Prop 8? « The Political Junkie

Fri, 27 Jan 2012 21:23:51 +0000

[...] found stories they could twist into suitably apocryphal rallying points. An earlier New Jersey case, disputing a local ministry’s attempt to claim a boardwalk pavilion as public access property [...]

By: Another NOM Commercial, Another Batch of Lies | Asterisk

Another NOM Commercial, Another Batch of Lies | Asterisk — Sun, 27 Feb 2011 03:49:29 +0000

[...] referenced is the case of the United Methodist owned Ocean Grove Camp Meeting Association, which for several decades took advantage of a tax credit by allowing the pavilion and attached [...]

By: Catholic Church Threatens to Leave Homeless Out in the Cold | Asterisk

Catholic Church Threatens to Leave Homeless Out in the Cold | Asterisk — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:50:58 +0000

[...] law, by the way. This is the way it’s been for ages. It’s why a Methodist organization in Ocean Grove, New Jersey wasn’t allowed to refuse to allow a lesbian couple to use its pavilion in 2007. The boardwalk [...]

By: Leo

Leo — Sun, 04 Jan 2009 19:21:09 +0000

Even here in NJ there’s a lot of confusion around this case. Likely because of the unusual nature of the Camp Meeting Association and it’s relationship to the larger community.

This the best summation I’ve seen –good job of bringing all the salient points together.

By: The Story So Far… » Blog Archive » There Can Be No Morality Without Religion

Sun, 04 Jan 2009 03:35:50 +0000

[...] to donate sixty copies of Of Pandas and People to his school’s library. See it in the Proposition 8 advertisements that claimed same sex marriage would result in the forcing of churches to marry homosexuals. [...]

By: Boo

Boo — Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:28:27 +0000

If you glance around Charlene’s blog, she also thinks she sees ghosts and that Santa is the devil.

By: Ephilei

Ephilei — Tue, 30 Dec 2008 20:55:02 +0000

Tim

Thanks for the good article. That story always sounded fishy but I’ve been too lazy to investigate.

By: Lying About Church and State | Popehat

Lying About Church and State | Popehat — Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:15:34 +0000

[...] gay couple wanted to use it. In other words, OGCMA offered the pavilion as a public accommodation. Box Turtle Bulletin illustrates in minute detail how opponents of Proposition 8 flat-out lied about this case and its [...]

By: a. mcewen

a. mcewen — Tue, 30 Dec 2008 17:26:45 +0000

I think this is the role that lgbt blogs should play.

When situations like this come out, the religious right are quick to spin them inaccurately. We should quick to get the entire story out there before this happens.

By: Matt Algren

Matt Algren — Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:48:53 +0000

Interesting. I found Charlene’s blog in late October and offered to disprove the claims, even linking (three times) to the Box Turtle Bulletin to give her an idea of how wrong and intellectually dishonest the statistics were.

Sadly (but not surprisingly), she decided to delete my reply and the facts contained therein rather than face the possibility that she was lied to. It’s all too common when talking with people of a certain religious strain. They’ve been taught to trust their leaders for everything, and the thought of having been lied to is out of the question.

Lucky for me, I screencap everything! Link to my blog post about Charlene’s blog below.

http://blog.mattalgren.com/2008/10/when-facts-get-in-the-way/