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		<title>By: &#8220;Oops, I Ter&#8217;rized Again&#8221;; an accidental terrorist &#171; National Equality Tax Revolt</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/01/08/7881/comment-page-1#comment-37287</link>
		<dc:creator>&#8220;Oops, I Ter&#8217;rized Again&#8221;; an accidental terrorist &#171; National Equality Tax Revolt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the blog Box Turtle Bulletin there was an article &#8220;Anti-Gay Donors Spooked&#8221; by Timothy Kincaid on January 8, 2009. I left a comment that was later moderated since I was [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the blog Box Turtle Bulletin there was an article &#8220;Anti-Gay Donors Spooked&#8221; by Timothy Kincaid on January 8, 2009. I left a comment that was later moderated since I was [...]</p>
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		<title>By: John Bisceglia</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Bisceglia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 08:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think my point above got missed; maybe my typing was messy.

I was listing the kinds of things CRAZY people do when they have felt isolated, betrayed, and pushed to the brink by society (in their minds).   The problem with months of campaigns like PROP 8 are you have a small but dangerous segment in society that may not feel safe or they feel overwhelmed and &quot;go postal&quot;.    The American Psychological Assocition has been taking notice:

http://www.apa.org/releases/glbt-stress-1108.html 

I am a sweet little ol&#039; neighborhood preschool music teacher, who after trauma from discrimination has been pushed fairly far &quot;to the brink&quot;; I can only imagine what those who may ALREADY be on the fringes of society are pondering - and may indeed act upon.  We need to start taking this psychological warfare against gays seriously as a HEALTH concern.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think my point above got missed; maybe my typing was messy.</p>
<p>I was listing the kinds of things CRAZY people do when they have felt isolated, betrayed, and pushed to the brink by society (in their minds).   The problem with months of campaigns like PROP 8 are you have a small but dangerous segment in society that may not feel safe or they feel overwhelmed and &#8220;go postal&#8221;.    The American Psychological Assocition has been taking notice:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.apa.org/releases/glbt-stress-1108.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.apa.org/releases/glbt-stress-1108.html</a> </p>
<p>I am a sweet little ol&#8217; neighborhood preschool music teacher, who after trauma from discrimination has been pushed fairly far &#8220;to the brink&#8221;; I can only imagine what those who may ALREADY be on the fringes of society are pondering &#8211; and may indeed act upon.  We need to start taking this psychological warfare against gays seriously as a HEALTH concern.</p>
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		<title>By: Situational ethics : Equality Loudoun</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/01/08/7881/comment-page-1#comment-32113</link>
		<dc:creator>Situational ethics : Equality Loudoun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] behind Prop 8 in California wanted to prevent public disclosure of donors to their campaign, and filed a lawsuit to overturn a state campaign finance law  - a law that was enacted by voter referendum in 1974. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] behind Prop 8 in California wanted to prevent public disclosure of donors to their campaign, and filed a lawsuit to overturn a state campaign finance law  &#8211; a law that was enacted by voter referendum in 1974. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/01/08/7881/comment-page-1#comment-30676</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Box Turtle Bulletin opposes the attitudes and actions proposed by John Bisceglia.  

We do not support a &#039;respond to hate with more hate&#039; approach to civil freedoms and human rights.  And we believe that arson, bomb threats, biological warfare and the sort are all terrorist activities and should be fully prosecuted.</description>
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<p>We do not support a &#8216;respond to hate with more hate&#8217; approach to civil freedoms and human rights.  And we believe that arson, bomb threats, biological warfare and the sort are all terrorist activities and should be fully prosecuted.</p>
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		<title>By: John Bisceglia</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Bisceglia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 19:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When &quot;religions&quot; persecute our families and &quot;beliefs&quot; have influenced U.S. law: WE HAVE A PROBLEM.   

&lt;em&gt;The remainder of this comment has been deleted due to violations of our &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/About/NoCrawl/CommentPolicy.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Comments Policy&lt;/a&gt;, which expressly forbids all threats, direct or implied. -- Jim B.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When &#8220;religions&#8221; persecute our families and &#8220;beliefs&#8221; have influenced U.S. law: WE HAVE A PROBLEM.   </p>
<p><em>The remainder of this comment has been deleted due to violations of our <a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/About/NoCrawl/CommentPolicy.htm" rel="nofollow" class="articleLink">Comments Policy</a>, which expressly forbids all threats, direct or implied. &#8212; Jim B.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Jason D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 14:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is actually a good thing.  The lawsuit is bunk, but look what it says.


It says they haven&#039;t the courage of their convictions.

It reminds me of that story about the animal loving A+ Student who doesn&#039;t want to kill and dissect a frog for biology class, but also doesn&#039;t want to get their first F grade.  The story almost always ends with the obvious: standing up for what you believe in carries with it acceptance of the consequences.

It&#039;s so funny, those of us who supported &quot;No&quot; did so openly, proudly, and many have expressed annoyance that their name didn&#039;t appear on the list of donors, or didn&#039;t appear FAST enough.

Yet these people want to run and hide.  

And they say we&#039;re the bullies?  Come on now.  How do these people look themselves in the mirror and not vomit?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is actually a good thing.  The lawsuit is bunk, but look what it says.</p>
<p>It says they haven&#8217;t the courage of their convictions.</p>
<p>It reminds me of that story about the animal loving A+ Student who doesn&#8217;t want to kill and dissect a frog for biology class, but also doesn&#8217;t want to get their first F grade.  The story almost always ends with the obvious: standing up for what you believe in carries with it acceptance of the consequences.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s so funny, those of us who supported &#8220;No&#8221; did so openly, proudly, and many have expressed annoyance that their name didn&#8217;t appear on the list of donors, or didn&#8217;t appear FAST enough.</p>
<p>Yet these people want to run and hide.  </p>
<p>And they say we&#8217;re the bullies?  Come on now.  How do these people look themselves in the mirror and not vomit?</p>
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		<title>By: Emily K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emily K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 22:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This legal action comes off as strange to me, because &quot;christian&quot; groups like this are so eager to play the martyr card and &quot;suffer&quot; for their beliefs.

where are the christ-comparisons? Where are the people saying &quot;Jesus suffered for his principles and now so am I&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This legal action comes off as strange to me, because &#8220;christian&#8221; groups like this are so eager to play the martyr card and &#8220;suffer&#8221; for their beliefs.</p>
<p>where are the christ-comparisons? Where are the people saying &#8220;Jesus suffered for his principles and now so am I&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: It&#8217;s Not Judicial Tyranny When We Do It &#124; Popehat</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/01/08/7881/comment-page-1#comment-30189</link>
		<dc:creator>It&#8217;s Not Judicial Tyranny When We Do It &#124; Popehat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 18:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to mention that some of the justifications offered by the Yes on Prop 8 litigants are rather pathetic: For example, “Decl. of John Doe #4 (received email that read “I AM BOYCOTTING YOUR ORGANIZATION [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ben in Oakland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben in Oakland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 16:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The irony of prop. 8 never ceases to amaze me.

Gay people risk life, limb, and employment, among other things, to say openly, &quot;I am gay.&quot;

And these defenders of faith, family, children, and country haven&#039;t got the balls to be public about what they believe and where they put their money. you owuld think they could stand a little heat.

And activist judges, overthrowing established law?

I&#039;m sure they would want to stand for the couragre of their convictions, if they actually had any.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The irony of prop. 8 never ceases to amaze me.</p>
<p>Gay people risk life, limb, and employment, among other things, to say openly, &#8220;I am gay.&#8221;</p>
<p>And these defenders of faith, family, children, and country haven&#8217;t got the balls to be public about what they believe and where they put their money. you owuld think they could stand a little heat.</p>
<p>And activist judges, overthrowing established law?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure they would want to stand for the couragre of their convictions, if they actually had any.</p>
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		<title>By: grantdale</title>
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		<dc:creator>grantdale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 16:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aah... now we know why they spent that weekend licking envelopes and posting &quot;a suspicious white powdery substance&quot; to each other. Figures, the sneaking lying bastards.

Seriously though, I know how distressed I would have been to have received an email declaring that I had won the &quot;tampon of the year award&quot;.

Probably not as distressed as, say, a California gay couple looking down their street and seeing anti-gay signs on the lawns of their so-called friendly neighbours; but ... well, tampon of the year, sheez.

(What&#039;s next? An email calling me poopy-pants or four-eyes or something else equally terrifying?)

I&#039;d give a nod to the &#039;remainder contains a bombshell theory&#039;, but I&#039;d also not discount it&#039;s simply another PR stunt by the stunt-meisters at ADF (all donations gratefully received).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aah&#8230; now we know why they spent that weekend licking envelopes and posting &#8220;a suspicious white powdery substance&#8221; to each other. Figures, the sneaking lying bastards.</p>
<p>Seriously though, I know how distressed I would have been to have received an email declaring that I had won the &#8220;tampon of the year award&#8221;.</p>
<p>Probably not as distressed as, say, a California gay couple looking down their street and seeing anti-gay signs on the lawns of their so-called friendly neighbours; but &#8230; well, tampon of the year, sheez.</p>
<p>(What&#8217;s next? An email calling me poopy-pants or four-eyes or something else equally terrifying?)</p>
<p>I&#8217;d give a nod to the &#8216;remainder contains a bombshell theory&#8217;, but I&#8217;d also not discount it&#8217;s simply another PR stunt by the stunt-meisters at ADF (all donations gratefully received).</p>
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