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	<title>Comments on: Utah Gay and Lesbian Ski Weekend Victim to Prop 8</title>
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	<description>News, analysis and fact-checking of anti-gay rhetoric</description>
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		<title>By: cowboy</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/01/13/8050/comment-page-1#comment-31104</link>
		<dc:creator>cowboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 19:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to apologize.  I made it seem like the whole Sundance Film Festival Queer Lounge was a party.   It is much more than that.  

The panel discussion groups about GLBT films was interesting.  &quot;We&#039;re going to do more than just make &quot;bubble-butt&quot; movies.&quot;   

The discussion about the ramifications of Proposition 8 and what our next steps should take and how Sundance Film Festival has and will respond was informative.  

I&#039;m grateful to GLAAD for their involvement.  It was a place for some of the great minds in our community to get together. 

And a personal thanks to the Swedish Consulate.  Tak.   

And I look forward to Women Artist&#039;s Swan Day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to apologize.  I made it seem like the whole Sundance Film Festival Queer Lounge was a party.   It is much more than that.  </p>
<p>The panel discussion groups about GLBT films was interesting.  &#8220;We&#8217;re going to do more than just make &#8220;bubble-butt&#8221; movies.&#8221;   </p>
<p>The discussion about the ramifications of Proposition 8 and what our next steps should take and how Sundance Film Festival has and will respond was informative.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m grateful to GLAAD for their involvement.  It was a place for some of the great minds in our community to get together. </p>
<p>And a personal thanks to the Swedish Consulate.  Tak.   </p>
<p>And I look forward to Women Artist&#8217;s Swan Day.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott P.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott P.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 00:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s really odd, cowboy, because NOBODY goes to the beaches here in the winter, it&#039;s too COLD to lay out or get into the water.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s really odd, cowboy, because NOBODY goes to the beaches here in the winter, it&#8217;s too COLD to lay out or get into the water.</p>
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		<title>By: cowboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>cowboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 20:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greetings from QLounge in Park City.  
I see lots of Southern California guys here.  How do I know?  They&#039;re all so buffed and tanned.   

Having fun.  Wish you were here.  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings from QLounge in Park City.<br />
I see lots of Southern California guys here.  How do I know?  They&#8217;re all so buffed and tanned.   </p>
<p>Having fun.  Wish you were here.  :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Mark F.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 23:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um, if you are going to boycott a state, shouldn&#039;t California be boycotted too?  And all the other states that don&#039;t have gay marriage? Is there a ski resort in Massachusetts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, if you are going to boycott a state, shouldn&#8217;t California be boycotted too?  And all the other states that don&#8217;t have gay marriage? Is there a ski resort in Massachusetts?</p>
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		<title>By: Scott P.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott P.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 20:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cowboy,

Just saw what you had to say. Again, you don&#039;t seem to have much useful to add, just a knee-jerk defense of all things LDS.


I&#039;ve probably been out longer than you&#039;ve been alive, and I got tired of being a &quot;good&quot; homosexual for the benefit of bigoted straights.

Oh, and by the way, my lover is the son of a former head of the Utah Travel Bureau.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cowboy,</p>
<p>Just saw what you had to say. Again, you don&#8217;t seem to have much useful to add, just a knee-jerk defense of all things LDS.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve probably been out longer than you&#8217;ve been alive, and I got tired of being a &#8220;good&#8221; homosexual for the benefit of bigoted straights.</p>
<p>Oh, and by the way, my lover is the son of a former head of the Utah Travel Bureau.</p>
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		<title>By: Attmay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Attmay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 20:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am serious. I have been going full-blown anti-Mormon since Prop H8 passed. Stop apologizing for these people, cowboy. They will stab you in the back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am serious. I have been going full-blown anti-Mormon since Prop H8 passed. Stop apologizing for these people, cowboy. They will stab you in the back.</p>
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		<title>By: cowboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>cowboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 02:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,

I think you might be right.  Perhaps Mr. Mitt Romney has seen the writing on the wall.  The nail in his national-political-career casket was when he saw the involvement of his LDS Church in politics and discovered the power they wield.  People won’t vote for someone that could be influenced by one religion and one dogma…(except in Utah).     

Perhaps if Mitt converted to being an Episcopal …he might have a chance.  No? 

I see your point, Tommy, but I’m afraid you have been paying indirectly to Mormons already.  You have been for a long time.   As you have been paying into Evangelical-owned businesses or have bought some pistachios from a Muslim…without realizing they, too, are anti-gay.   Try to stop buying stuff from any Catholic-owned business then too.  Why just the Mormons?  

And Attmay:  you won’t talk to Mormons?  Really?   I bet you hold your breath and stomp your feet any time you don’t get your way?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>I think you might be right.  Perhaps Mr. Mitt Romney has seen the writing on the wall.  The nail in his national-political-career casket was when he saw the involvement of his LDS Church in politics and discovered the power they wield.  People won’t vote for someone that could be influenced by one religion and one dogma…(except in Utah).     </p>
<p>Perhaps if Mitt converted to being an Episcopal …he might have a chance.  No? </p>
<p>I see your point, Tommy, but I’m afraid you have been paying indirectly to Mormons already.  You have been for a long time.   As you have been paying into Evangelical-owned businesses or have bought some pistachios from a Muslim…without realizing they, too, are anti-gay.   Try to stop buying stuff from any Catholic-owned business then too.  Why just the Mormons?  </p>
<p>And Attmay:  you won’t talk to Mormons?  Really?   I bet you hold your breath and stomp your feet any time you don’t get your way?</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 01:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cowboy,

I find it interesting that the Mormons are now being emboldened by their success in Prop 8.  I think that by showing how much money they had to throw around and manipulate an election has weakened them.  

Most Evangelicals have been suspicious of them for a while.  Now they have even more to worry about in terms of Mormons using their money and organization to try to impose Mitt Romney or some other Mormon Republican at the head of the GOP.  I think there will be a backlash against them on the Right.

Also, now Democrats are hip to Church interference in politics.  It would be to the Dems advantage to expose the hidden hand of the Church manipulating the behind the scenes of elections.

They thought that they could do this all on the under, but now that their cover is blown, they aren&#039;t going to be able to to easily hide their hunger for political power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cowboy,</p>
<p>I find it interesting that the Mormons are now being emboldened by their success in Prop 8.  I think that by showing how much money they had to throw around and manipulate an election has weakened them.  </p>
<p>Most Evangelicals have been suspicious of them for a while.  Now they have even more to worry about in terms of Mormons using their money and organization to try to impose Mitt Romney or some other Mormon Republican at the head of the GOP.  I think there will be a backlash against them on the Right.</p>
<p>Also, now Democrats are hip to Church interference in politics.  It would be to the Dems advantage to expose the hidden hand of the Church manipulating the behind the scenes of elections.</p>
<p>They thought that they could do this all on the under, but now that their cover is blown, they aren&#8217;t going to be able to to easily hide their hunger for political power.</p>
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		<title>By: Tommy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 00:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The point is not to &quot;plead to the prophet,&quot; the point is to not give the prophet our money so he can turn around and use it to hurt us.

They can rely on their own resources, rather than us giving them ours to turn against us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point is not to &#8220;plead to the prophet,&#8221; the point is to not give the prophet our money so he can turn around and use it to hurt us.</p>
<p>They can rely on their own resources, rather than us giving them ours to turn against us.</p>
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		<title>By: Attmay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Attmay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 22:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sign me up for the War on Utah. I will not support Mormon-owned businesses, allow Mormons into my house, or talk to Mormons. And I will not support anything based in that state.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sign me up for the War on Utah. I will not support Mormon-owned businesses, allow Mormons into my house, or talk to Mormons. And I will not support anything based in that state.</p>
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