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	<title>Comments on: Inauguration Committee May Try To Fix Robinson Snub</title>
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		<title>By: CLS</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/01/19/8182/comment-page-1#comment-31165</link>
		<dc:creator>CLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 20:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s see what he&#039;s done on this so far. First, he invited a notorious homophobe to give the &quot;big&quot; prayer. He excused that as &quot;dialogue&quot; even though no dialogue is taken place just an honor bestowed on the bigot. In addition, we know he wouldn&#039;t have tried that excuse if Bush had, at his inauguration, brought in a notorious racists to pray. Then dialogue wouldn&#039;t excuse it. This only works for antigay bigots.

 After the big controversy that his decision caused, and only when it wouldn&#039;t go away, did he then ask Robinson to do a similar prayer in some much smaller event which will barely be noticed, unlike Warren who will be given a prominent position exceeded by only a handful of people -- like Obama, Biden, etc. 

And then they &quot;accidentally&quot; flubbed up the Robinson prayer so it didn&#039;t get broadcast. Right. I believe it.

The gay vote is seen as &quot;safe&quot; and so, when it does them political good, the Democrats are happy to shaft gay supporters. Obama is just another politician not the messiah. Some people will take a long time to figure that out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s see what he&#8217;s done on this so far. First, he invited a notorious homophobe to give the &#8220;big&#8221; prayer. He excused that as &#8220;dialogue&#8221; even though no dialogue is taken place just an honor bestowed on the bigot. In addition, we know he wouldn&#8217;t have tried that excuse if Bush had, at his inauguration, brought in a notorious racists to pray. Then dialogue wouldn&#8217;t excuse it. This only works for antigay bigots.</p>
<p> After the big controversy that his decision caused, and only when it wouldn&#8217;t go away, did he then ask Robinson to do a similar prayer in some much smaller event which will barely be noticed, unlike Warren who will be given a prominent position exceeded by only a handful of people &#8212; like Obama, Biden, etc. </p>
<p>And then they &#8220;accidentally&#8221; flubbed up the Robinson prayer so it didn&#8217;t get broadcast. Right. I believe it.</p>
<p>The gay vote is seen as &#8220;safe&#8221; and so, when it does them political good, the Democrats are happy to shaft gay supporters. Obama is just another politician not the messiah. Some people will take a long time to figure that out.</p>
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		<title>By: Buffy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buffy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 13:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I always knew he would disappoint us. I just didn’t think it would happen before he even took the oath of office.&quot;

I&#039;m afraid you had much more faith in him than my wife and I did.  He has merely lived down to our expectations of him  with every slap he has delivered to our faces.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I always knew he would disappoint us. I just didn’t think it would happen before he even took the oath of office.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m afraid you had much more faith in him than my wife and I did.  He has merely lived down to our expectations of him  with every slap he has delivered to our faces.</p>
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		<title>By: tristram</title>
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		<dc:creator>tristram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 07:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like David C&#039;s message (rhetorical flourishes and all!). Rep. John Lewis&#039;s steadfast support for gay rights (mentioned in a contemporaneous post) lends powerful support to the importance of our making a sincere and sustained effort to empathize with and reach out to all the minority and disadvantaged communities that are still struggling to participate fully in American society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like David C&#8217;s message (rhetorical flourishes and all!). Rep. John Lewis&#8217;s steadfast support for gay rights (mentioned in a contemporaneous post) lends powerful support to the importance of our making a sincere and sustained effort to empathize with and reach out to all the minority and disadvantaged communities that are still struggling to participate fully in American society.</p>
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		<title>By: David C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>David C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 04:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;So…whats everybody going to do about it?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It is much easier to just sit around and complain but that will get us precisely nowhere.  

My suggestion is that we &lt;b&gt;pay attention to what matters.&lt;/b&gt;  Right now we have a barely functional economy, and perhaps soon a barely functional nation.  At the same time, the call for universal civil rights is gaining in strength, and we should join in that steady drumbeat, without emulating the shrill demagoguery of the enemies of freedom that would divide us and instead working to unite all people in the noble cause of freedom and inclusiveness.

We must tell the truth in measured tones and with clear conviction all the time, proclaiming it persistently, and with intent, in every forum to which we can gain access, never allowing lies about us to drown out the truth.  Know what half-truths and distortions are being circulated about LGBT people and make sure that no one gets a pass on a lie about Gay people.  Blog, e-mail, write op-ed pieces and letters to the editor, plaster posters in the public square, and don&#039;t stop for one minute proclaiming the cause of universal civil rights for &lt;b&gt;all&lt;/b&gt; people.  

We must join forces with those that share the common cause of freedom.  Build bridges with anybody that can be induced to reach out to us by our own reaching out.  Be exemplars of citizenship and participate in our communities, not just the LGBT communities, but everywhere opportunity manifests for that participation.  It&#039;s time to end the selfish expectation of being handed our rights for they must be earned every day by good deeds and responsible behavior that everybody can&#039;t help but see. 

Continue supporting Gay supportive elected officials and let them hear from us constantly by taking the time to carefully craft our communication with them, building their understanding of the need and urgency for redress, and offering what help we can give.  Look for opportunities to participate in political activism and volunteer to help LGBT organizations to mobilize those that support the cause of full civil rights for LGBT people everywhere.

People are only ever truly known by what they do.  So what are &lt;i&gt;you&lt;/i&gt; doing to be free?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>So…whats everybody going to do about it?</p></blockquote>
<p>It is much easier to just sit around and complain but that will get us precisely nowhere.  </p>
<p>My suggestion is that we <b>pay attention to what matters.</b>  Right now we have a barely functional economy, and perhaps soon a barely functional nation.  At the same time, the call for universal civil rights is gaining in strength, and we should join in that steady drumbeat, without emulating the shrill demagoguery of the enemies of freedom that would divide us and instead working to unite all people in the noble cause of freedom and inclusiveness.</p>
<p>We must tell the truth in measured tones and with clear conviction all the time, proclaiming it persistently, and with intent, in every forum to which we can gain access, never allowing lies about us to drown out the truth.  Know what half-truths and distortions are being circulated about LGBT people and make sure that no one gets a pass on a lie about Gay people.  Blog, e-mail, write op-ed pieces and letters to the editor, plaster posters in the public square, and don&#8217;t stop for one minute proclaiming the cause of universal civil rights for <b>all</b> people.  </p>
<p>We must join forces with those that share the common cause of freedom.  Build bridges with anybody that can be induced to reach out to us by our own reaching out.  Be exemplars of citizenship and participate in our communities, not just the LGBT communities, but everywhere opportunity manifests for that participation.  It&#8217;s time to end the selfish expectation of being handed our rights for they must be earned every day by good deeds and responsible behavior that everybody can&#8217;t help but see. </p>
<p>Continue supporting Gay supportive elected officials and let them hear from us constantly by taking the time to carefully craft our communication with them, building their understanding of the need and urgency for redress, and offering what help we can give.  Look for opportunities to participate in political activism and volunteer to help LGBT organizations to mobilize those that support the cause of full civil rights for LGBT people everywhere.</p>
<p>People are only ever truly known by what they do.  So what are <i>you</i> doing to be free?</p>
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		<title>By: Damon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 03:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So...whats everybody going to do about it?

Is this what its going to be all about for the next 4 years? Perhaps the republicans will have their revolution next election and we can continue doing this for 12 years. ENDA, the Matthew Shepard Act remain out of sight, DADT and DOMA remains in sight and the public continues to not take LGBTQ people seriously and our community, so fractured, will continue falling all over themselves getting up in arms over slights in entertainment, races pitted against each other and busy tying the gay rights movement with the atheist movement.

Great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So&#8230;whats everybody going to do about it?</p>
<p>Is this what its going to be all about for the next 4 years? Perhaps the republicans will have their revolution next election and we can continue doing this for 12 years. ENDA, the Matthew Shepard Act remain out of sight, DADT and DOMA remains in sight and the public continues to not take LGBTQ people seriously and our community, so fractured, will continue falling all over themselves getting up in arms over slights in entertainment, races pitted against each other and busy tying the gay rights movement with the atheist movement.</p>
<p>Great.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/01/19/8182/comment-page-1#comment-31131</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 01:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So let me see if I have this right...

As those who attend the inauguration are showing up and finding their place, talking to their neighbors, discussing the upcoming event, etc. in the background they will broadcast the concert.  And for those few there at the very beginning of the re-broadcast, they may hear Rev. Robinson.  Maybe.  If they aren&#039;t talking to each other.

Not exactly the same thing as the HBO free show on every television in the nation, is it?  And it certainly isn&#039;t comparable to the invocation.

It&#039;s pathetic.  That&#039;s what it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So let me see if I have this right&#8230;</p>
<p>As those who attend the inauguration are showing up and finding their place, talking to their neighbors, discussing the upcoming event, etc. in the background they will broadcast the concert.  And for those few there at the very beginning of the re-broadcast, they may hear Rev. Robinson.  Maybe.  If they aren&#8217;t talking to each other.</p>
<p>Not exactly the same thing as the HBO free show on every television in the nation, is it?  And it certainly isn&#8217;t comparable to the invocation.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s pathetic.  That&#8217;s what it is.</p>
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		<title>By: David C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>David C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 01:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I always knew he would disappoint us. I just didn’t think it would happen before he even took the oath of office.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;ll start keeping score &lt;i&gt;after&lt;/i&gt; the inauguration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I always knew he would disappoint us. I just didn’t think it would happen before he even took the oath of office.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ll start keeping score <i>after</i> the inauguration.</p>
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		<title>By: Bene D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bene D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 00:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh shoot - sorry about the link. Here it is in tinyURL.

http://tinyurl.com/8vm96c</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh shoot &#8211; sorry about the link. Here it is in tinyURL.</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/8vm96c" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/8vm96c</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bene D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bene D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 00:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2009/01/obama_team_take.html

If there is an up side to this is HBO doesn&#039;t own the rights to Sarah Pulliam&#039;s video on YouTube so they can&#039;t yank it for copyright violations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2009/01/obama_team_take.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2009/01/obama_team_take.html</a></p>
<p>If there is an up side to this is HBO doesn&#8217;t own the rights to Sarah Pulliam&#8217;s video on YouTube so they can&#8217;t yank it for copyright violations.</p>
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		<title>By: Peace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 22:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was hoping that the issue with the sound (which I&#039;m willing to believe was just very, very unfortunate luck) was in some way the reason they didn&#039;t broadcast it.  That&#039;s pretty much the only story I would have been ok with. ::sigh::</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was hoping that the issue with the sound (which I&#8217;m willing to believe was just very, very unfortunate luck) was in some way the reason they didn&#8217;t broadcast it.  That&#8217;s pretty much the only story I would have been ok with. ::sigh::</p>
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