Comments on: LaBarbera Award: Scott Lively

By: Suricou Raven

Suricou Raven — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:56:25 +0000

“So if, according to this moron,the Nazis were all gay why was it that they sent thousands of gays to the camps during WWII?”

In the interests of debate, I’m going to give you Lively’s answer to this, so you can see how bad it is.

His answer – so far as I can gather, not having read the book myself – is that there were almost no gays in the concentration camps. A few, but they were in because they opposed the party leadership, with their sexuality used only as an excuse. The gay nazis wrote anti-gay laws, but only for political gain, making sure they were never enforced. After the war, the gay leadership saw how much sympathy the jews were getting, and decided they wanted a bit of that for themselves – so they deliberatly faked the entire gay section of the holocaust, even writing fraudulent records as the allies rolled into Germany, in order to gather public sympathy.

Naturally, they made these fake records with such skill that it’s impossible for anyone except Lively to see they are fake.

By: Tom in Lazybrook

Tom in Lazybrook — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:57:42 +0000

Did Scott Lively pay a financial settlement back in Oregon revolving around his personal involvement in a physical altercation against a Gay woman? I thought I saw something about that. I’m wondering if that was just a rumor.

Did you also know that Lively was the Director of the California AFA? After he wrote the (in my opinion) holocaust revisionist work, the Pink Swastika. By the way, Lively’s other tract, the Poisoned Stream is pretty disgusting too.

By: Ben in Oakland

Ben in Oakland — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:53:48 +0000

The absuridty of these bigots is only surpassed by the iwllingness of the ignorant and the hate-filled to believe them.

We’re supposed to be limp wristed inneffectual pansies. We’re supposed to be hyper-masculine neo-nazis. either one can destroy family, faith, and nation with a flick of either our wrists or our riding crops.

We’re oversexed predators who, for some reason, want to get married.

We’re godless, but we have Ted Haggard and halF the catholic hierarchy.

BLAHBLAHBLAHBLAHBLAH

By: AJD

AJD — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:52:02 +0000

Tim, I wasn’t referring to anyone on this site. In daily conversation, however, I’ve often encountered the view that homophobic ideas deserve some special respect when they’re religious, or that they don’t even constitute homophobia at all, but are merely the “word of God.”

By: Timothy Kincaid

Timothy Kincaid — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:39:47 +0000

AJD,

I don’t think anyone – or at least no one at this site – is requiring anyone to be respectful of homophobia.

By: AJD

AJD — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:44:09 +0000

Lurker, it’s not strange; the reason why Jews, gays and other minorities have historically been blamed for the world’s ills is because they’re marginalized and therefore easy to turn into scapegoats.

Buffy, I agree completely. The funny thing is, we don’t let people slide if they attempt to justify racism based on religious beliefs, but if they’re homophobic because that’s what their books tell them, we’re expected to be “respectful.”

By: Buffy

Buffy — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:31:46 +0000

Until we eradicate the notion that hatred based on “deeply held religious beliefs” is acceptable, the Scott Livelys of the world will continue to be a significant force against human rights.

By: lurker

lurker — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 06:54:53 +0000

Isn’t it strange that the most marginalized people – jews, gays, brown people of all types – are touted as the evil architects of all that is wrong with the world?

Marginalized people have no power to take over the world – hence the term “marginalized”

By: AJD

AJD — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 04:57:58 +0000

This guy seriously scares the crap out of me. To the extent that he can influence people — and he does — he’s a very dangerous man.

By: Kristie

Kristie — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 04:42:19 +0000

So if, according to this moron,the Nazis were all gay why was it that they sent thousands of gays to the camps during WWII? Why was it that they were rounding them up along with Jews and the mentally challenged and anyone that opposed them politically? Oh yeah, because they weren’t all gay they were just all FREAKING PSYCHOS!

This is the most moronic thing I have ever heard, but sadly, there are far too many stupid people in this world that will just take it as gospel. This Lively idiot should be locked up somewhere.