Comments on: LDS Prophets’ Latest “Revelation”: Church Gave $190,000 To Pass Prop 8

By: Timothy Kincaid

Timothy Kincaid — Sun, 01 Feb 2009 17:57:04 +0000

The defense I see most from devout Mormons is that the Prop 8 contributions were from individuals. But this reveals that employees of the church were paid to work for the passage of Proposition 8.

I very much doubt that this will have much impact on the devoted parishoners who (by about 85%) are incapable of finding wrong with their church, but it does remove one of their most common points of defense.

By: Emily K

Emily K — Sun, 01 Feb 2009 06:43:45 +0000

thx for the heads up Devlin.

By: Devlin Bach

Devlin Bach — Sun, 01 Feb 2009 06:17:53 +0000

Emily, the list gets released this Monday.

By: cd

cd — Sun, 01 Feb 2009 06:08:35 +0000

I remember predicting here in early September that the LDS Church was the major player behind Prop. 8….

These sorts of religious groups all learned from Scientology just how far they could go during the past 40 years under the cover of freedom of religion and as corporate entities and extremely aggressive behavior in the courts. In this country that was: almost anywhere. If you read up on Scientology enough, none of how the upper tiers of the LDS works or what they do in circumvention, abuse, and violation of the laws is novel.

It will be a long dispute with them. I would start with an estimate of 20 years and take appropriate measures. Which includes finding high rank Mormon insiders who are not true believers in the official anti-gay policies.

By: John

John — Sun, 01 Feb 2009 03:42:23 +0000

The Mormon Church has demonstrated that is has enormous financial resources (direct church resources as well as the ability to order their followers to contribute enormous sums). They try to hide in the shadows and pull the strings from behind drawn curtains. This is a potentially very worisome political entity, and I worry about their long term political aspirations. This church/political organization needs to be watched very carefully by those of us concerned with individual liberty and equal protection before the law in this country.

By: Buffy

Buffy — Sun, 01 Feb 2009 02:02:50 +0000

Tax them to the nth degree like the business they are. Give them penalties on top of it for trying to hide what they did.

By: Bruno

Bruno — Sat, 31 Jan 2009 22:55:39 +0000

It’s such a hypocritical organization and I don’t know how they consistently get away with it, I really don’t. I bet they’ll get away with it this time, too, with some behind the scenes financial finagling.

By: LDS Prophets Experience Sudden Revelations | Deep Something

LDS Prophets Experience Sudden Revelations | Deep Something — Sat, 31 Jan 2009 22:51:18 +0000

[...] Turtle Bulletin seems to have found out why the Proposition 8 people were so hell bent in trying to prohibit the release of the names of donors to their campaign to take away the rights of Gay people in California. It seems the LDS had way [...]

By: David C.

David C. — Sat, 31 Jan 2009 20:28:07 +0000

Jim, shouldn’t that be “revelation” in the headline, and a 190,000 reasons?

By: cowboy

cowboy — Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:39:29 +0000

Oops. Or should we say: Their high-paid tax attorneys/advisors are no better than H&R Block?

Major oops.

But, can we now see the power of this Church. The core of its members paid (legally I must add) via their volunteer efforts and private donations. It’s not the pittance of a couple of hundred grand…it was MILLIONS. And marvel at the source of these millions: a single one-page letter from their Prophet.

Personally, I think the “in kind” donation is much higher. They used BYU for a significant part of the campaigning.

So, if every Mormon had paid only $99 there would not have been any disclosure?