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	<title>Comments on: DADT Discharges Continue</title>
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		<title>By: Jason D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 22:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;A civilian co-worker is singular, and they is plural. Doesn’t anyone write with proper grammar anymore?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Except in the case where the singular person either has no gender (he or she) or it is not known, in that case &quot;they&quot; is acceptable as &quot;they&quot; can be singular in that instance.  Chill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;A civilian co-worker is singular, and they is plural. Doesn’t anyone write with proper grammar anymore?&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Except in the case where the singular person either has no gender (he or she) or it is not known, in that case &#8220;they&#8221; is acceptable as &#8220;they&#8221; can be singular in that instance.  Chill.</p>
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		<title>By: David C.</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/02/08/8667/comment-page-1#comment-33077</link>
		<dc:creator>David C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe it should be &quot;Don&#039;t Ask, Don&#039;t &lt;i&gt;Tattle&lt;/i&gt;&quot;.

&lt;b&gt;~~&lt;/b&gt;

By now it should be pretty clear that Obama is going to have problems with the still intransigent Republicans in both houses of Congress.  Mitigating the negative effects of DADT at the presidential level by use of Executive Order would stop or at least slow this kind of thing way down.  

Perhaps everybody that believes Obama should act immediately should themselves go &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and suggest that he sign an executive order or similar executive regulation, under Section 654(b), withholding all discharges and initiations of investigations/discharges under Section 654 at the Presidential level.  That is, suggest the President should order that no investigation or discharge be initiated under Section 654 without his personal approval.  It&#039;s unlikely that anybody would bother the president with any more investigations or discharges and even if they did, he could just treat such referrals as being of a very low priority, deferring them indefinitely.

I would not expect much action on this at the Presidential level until &lt;i&gt;after&lt;/i&gt; all the stimulus and bail-out bills have been passed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it should be &#8220;Don&#8217;t Ask, Don&#8217;t <i>Tattle</i>&#8220;.</p>
<p><b>~~</b></p>
<p>By now it should be pretty clear that Obama is going to have problems with the still intransigent Republicans in both houses of Congress.  Mitigating the negative effects of DADT at the presidential level by use of Executive Order would stop or at least slow this kind of thing way down.  </p>
<p>Perhaps everybody that believes Obama should act immediately should themselves go <a href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/" rel="nofollow">here</a> and suggest that he sign an executive order or similar executive regulation, under Section 654(b), withholding all discharges and initiations of investigations/discharges under Section 654 at the Presidential level.  That is, suggest the President should order that no investigation or discharge be initiated under Section 654 without his personal approval.  It&#8217;s unlikely that anybody would bother the president with any more investigations or discharges and even if they did, he could just treat such referrals as being of a very low priority, deferring them indefinitely.</p>
<p>I would not expect much action on this at the Presidential level until <i>after</i> all the stimulus and bail-out bills have been passed.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/02/08/8667/comment-page-1#comment-33072</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 15:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was in uniform when Clinton showed what a spineless coward he is on this.  I remain skeptical that Obama will actually do anything other than talk, talk, talk...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was in uniform when Clinton showed what a spineless coward he is on this.  I remain skeptical that Obama will actually do anything other than talk, talk, talk&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/02/08/8667/comment-page-1#comment-33063</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 12:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Emily K, Joel, Ephilei, and John,

You have run into the essentially hypocritical nature of the Clinton-era policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emily K, Joel, Ephilei, and John,</p>
<p>You have run into the essentially hypocritical nature of the Clinton-era policy.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/02/08/8667/comment-page-1#comment-33062</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 12:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;a civilian co-worker&lt;/i&gt; told authorities &lt;i&gt;they&lt;/i&gt; had seen her kissing a woman&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;i&gt;A civilian co-worker&lt;/i&gt; is singular, and &lt;i&gt;they&lt;/i&gt; is plural. Doesn&#039;t anyone write with proper grammar anymore?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>a civilian co-worker</i> told authorities <i>they</i> had seen her kissing a woman</p></blockquote>
<p><i>A civilian co-worker</i> is singular, and <i>they</i> is plural. Doesn&#8217;t anyone write with proper grammar anymore?</p>
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		<title>By: Attmay</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/02/08/8667/comment-page-1#comment-33030</link>
		<dc:creator>Attmay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 02:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama is a fraud. I saw that from day one, and I&#039;m glad the rest of you are seeing that your hero has feet of clay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama is a fraud. I saw that from day one, and I&#8217;m glad the rest of you are seeing that your hero has feet of clay.</p>
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		<title>By: AdrianT</title>
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		<dc:creator>AdrianT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 22:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DADT is evil discrimination,  And if I hear correctly, while Obama courts faith communities, even this won&#039;t be looked at till the troops are out of Iraq... well that will be ages. Some audacity, some hope.  Delay on this means more statistics, every one of which a destroyed career and ruined livelihood. 

I hope the ACLU and all of you turn up the heat on this ridiculous legislation - though actually, wouldn&#039;t it be nice if former straight colleagues of dismissed military could start showing a little  public solidarity?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DADT is evil discrimination,  And if I hear correctly, while Obama courts faith communities, even this won&#8217;t be looked at till the troops are out of Iraq&#8230; well that will be ages. Some audacity, some hope.  Delay on this means more statistics, every one of which a destroyed career and ruined livelihood. </p>
<p>I hope the ACLU and all of you turn up the heat on this ridiculous legislation &#8211; though actually, wouldn&#8217;t it be nice if former straight colleagues of dismissed military could start showing a little  public solidarity?</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 19:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is why I am very skeptical of this supposed delay that&#039;s been talked about in repealing DADT.  I don&#039;t believe that Obama is serious and instead is burying it &quot;in committee&quot; so to speak.  This policy HAS to go and waiting any longer is a detriment not only to the military, but for gay rights in general.

Btw, military service is 24/7 and isn&#039;t limited to just bases.  One can be charged for offenses to the UCMJ regardless of when or where they occur.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is why I am very skeptical of this supposed delay that&#8217;s been talked about in repealing DADT.  I don&#8217;t believe that Obama is serious and instead is burying it &#8220;in committee&#8221; so to speak.  This policy HAS to go and waiting any longer is a detriment not only to the military, but for gay rights in general.</p>
<p>Btw, military service is 24/7 and isn&#8217;t limited to just bases.  One can be charged for offenses to the UCMJ regardless of when or where they occur.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 19:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone been discharged from the military for violating the &quot;Don&#039;t Ask and the Don&#039;t Pursue&quot; parts of the policy??  I didn&#039;t think so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone been discharged from the military for violating the &#8220;Don&#8217;t Ask and the Don&#8217;t Pursue&#8221; parts of the policy??  I didn&#8217;t think so.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason D</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/02/08/8667/comment-page-1#comment-32997</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 19:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The third part, often overlooked, of DADT is &quot;Don&#039;t Pursue&quot;.  As in, don&#039;t ask them if they&#039;re gay, don&#039;t tell anyone if you&#039;re gay, and don&#039;t try to find out if any of your soldiers are gay.

It would appear allowing a rumor to stand as evidence would count as &quot;pursuit&quot;, but that&#039;s just me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The third part, often overlooked, of DADT is &#8220;Don&#8217;t Pursue&#8221;.  As in, don&#8217;t ask them if they&#8217;re gay, don&#8217;t tell anyone if you&#8217;re gay, and don&#8217;t try to find out if any of your soldiers are gay.</p>
<p>It would appear allowing a rumor to stand as evidence would count as &#8220;pursuit&#8221;, but that&#8217;s just me.</p>
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