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	<title>Comments on: When The Son Of A Megachurch Pastor Gets Caught</title>
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		<title>By: Derek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 23:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>T.D. knew his kid was gay all along.  How does the most clueless parent not know, let alone a parent who spends as much time obsessing about homosexuality as Pastor Jakes?  He knew: he just didn&#039;t care.  He didn&#039;t care because he is a conservative, and so the virtues he preaches apply to others, to the little people out there in TV Land, not to him or his.  Homosexuality is wrong...unless your pro-family bona fides are in order, in which case a quick BJ in a public restroom on the way to an important meeting is a terrific stress-reliever.  Or the free market should decide who succeeds and who fails...until it&#039;s Conservative Man who&#039;s going to get the axe if the gubmint doesn&#039;t hurry up and get on our backs again.  It cannot be said often enough: T.D.Jakes and his kind are the people Jesus warned us about: groping for the specks in our eyes with one hand and lifting our wallets with the other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>T.D. knew his kid was gay all along.  How does the most clueless parent not know, let alone a parent who spends as much time obsessing about homosexuality as Pastor Jakes?  He knew: he just didn&#8217;t care.  He didn&#8217;t care because he is a conservative, and so the virtues he preaches apply to others, to the little people out there in TV Land, not to him or his.  Homosexuality is wrong&#8230;unless your pro-family bona fides are in order, in which case a quick BJ in a public restroom on the way to an important meeting is a terrific stress-reliever.  Or the free market should decide who succeeds and who fails&#8230;until it&#8217;s Conservative Man who&#8217;s going to get the axe if the gubmint doesn&#8217;t hurry up and get on our backs again.  It cannot be said often enough: T.D.Jakes and his kind are the people Jesus warned us about: groping for the specks in our eyes with one hand and lifting our wallets with the other.</p>
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		<title>By: paul J stein</title>
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		<dc:creator>paul J stein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 14:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lets hope he makes it to some counseling before he attempts suicide or buries it deeper and gets &quot;restored&quot; to straightness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lets hope he makes it to some counseling before he attempts suicide or buries it deeper and gets &#8220;restored&#8221; to straightness.</p>
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		<title>By: Attmay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Attmay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Is there a word to describe parents who, because of their political/religious beliefs, attack and denigrate their own children?&quot;

There are several words I&#039;m thinking of, but they all violate the Comments Policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Is there a word to describe parents who, because of their political/religious beliefs, attack and denigrate their own children?&#8221;</p>
<p>There are several words I&#8217;m thinking of, but they all violate the Comments Policy.</p>
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		<title>By: Houndentenor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Houndentenor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 15:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another PK weighing in.  I feel for this kid.  The solution is obvious though.  Get the hell out of the Bible belt.  The only way out of the scrutiny of this situation is to be a thousand miles or more away from the Church Ladies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another PK weighing in.  I feel for this kid.  The solution is obvious though.  Get the hell out of the Bible belt.  The only way out of the scrutiny of this situation is to be a thousand miles or more away from the Church Ladies.</p>
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		<title>By: Russell B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russell B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 03:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back in the day, we &quot;P.K.s&quot; decided to change the term to &quot;T.O.s&quot; -- Theological Offspring. It never caught on, for obvious reasons.

I&#039;m not sure whether you&#039;re saying that PKs suffer more from having their &quot;sins&quot; broadcast to everyone or from being afraid to sin in the first place. As a teen and young adult, I was extremely inhibited under the pretense of being a good kid with a reputation I myself could be proud of. Now, in my decrepit dotage, I regret never having done anything fun -- and it&#039;s too late now to make up for it.

The real pity, of course, is that any gay man, regardless of his parents&#039; occupations, has to feel ashamed of his sexuality to the point of demeaning himself by looking for gratification in a park instead of the comfort of his own home as his straight peers do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back in the day, we &#8220;P.K.s&#8221; decided to change the term to &#8220;T.O.s&#8221; &#8212; Theological Offspring. It never caught on, for obvious reasons.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure whether you&#8217;re saying that PKs suffer more from having their &#8220;sins&#8221; broadcast to everyone or from being afraid to sin in the first place. As a teen and young adult, I was extremely inhibited under the pretense of being a good kid with a reputation I myself could be proud of. Now, in my decrepit dotage, I regret never having done anything fun &#8212; and it&#8217;s too late now to make up for it.</p>
<p>The real pity, of course, is that any gay man, regardless of his parents&#8217; occupations, has to feel ashamed of his sexuality to the point of demeaning himself by looking for gratification in a park instead of the comfort of his own home as his straight peers do.</p>
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		<title>By: Maurice Lacunza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maurice Lacunza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 22:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Which is why I don’t feel sorry for T.D. Jakes. Those are his chickens he’s seeing in the morning paper, each and every one of them coming home to roost&quot;.

Amen. When will the church wake up?

Piper, the gay community can&#039;t step up to support him if he insists on staying in the closet. Really, lets hope that Jermaine doesn&#039;t opt for a Haggard style restoration and recovery. 

If TD Jakes is truly trying to embrace the LGBT, let him reach out to his own son first. Let&#039;s see if TD will love his own child ...unconditionally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Which is why I don’t feel sorry for T.D. Jakes. Those are his chickens he’s seeing in the morning paper, each and every one of them coming home to roost&#8221;.</p>
<p>Amen. When will the church wake up?</p>
<p>Piper, the gay community can&#8217;t step up to support him if he insists on staying in the closet. Really, lets hope that Jermaine doesn&#8217;t opt for a Haggard style restoration and recovery. </p>
<p>If TD Jakes is truly trying to embrace the LGBT, let him reach out to his own son first. Let&#8217;s see if TD will love his own child &#8230;unconditionally.</p>
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		<title>By: Swampfox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Swampfox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 02:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would hope that you refrain from using the term kids instead of children, at least when writing.  It is sort of my pet peeve. 

I have to wonder how many anti-gay churches have social gatherings trying to match up people in their churches that aren&#039;t married.

Let&#039;s all wish that this gay man who is the son of an anti-gay preacher finds some balance/peace/love in his life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would hope that you refrain from using the term kids instead of children, at least when writing.  It is sort of my pet peeve. </p>
<p>I have to wonder how many anti-gay churches have social gatherings trying to match up people in their churches that aren&#8217;t married.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s all wish that this gay man who is the son of an anti-gay preacher finds some balance/peace/love in his life.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 02:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Religion absolutely ruins everything.

Just be yourselves and the world will weed out the zealots. Do not bow to evil cults that masquerade as a &quot;church&quot; i.e. all of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Religion absolutely ruins everything.</p>
<p>Just be yourselves and the world will weed out the zealots. Do not bow to evil cults that masquerade as a &#8220;church&#8221; i.e. all of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Piper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Piper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 01:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a hopefully future pastor, this worries me.  Although I plan on going into the ELCA Lutheran church, and will never preach hatred (although they don&#039;t seem to understand that&#039;s what they do when they preach so hatefully against gay people) it is still a big worry or at least should be for pastors.  

One of my moms best friends is the daughter of our pastor.  She turned out ok, but i have heard way to many stories of PKs committing suicide because the environment they are raised in was so strict it never gave them the freedom to test boundaries and discover themselves.

I only hope that the gay community can step up at give this kid a hand.  He&#039;s got to be in a lot of pain right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a hopefully future pastor, this worries me.  Although I plan on going into the ELCA Lutheran church, and will never preach hatred (although they don&#8217;t seem to understand that&#8217;s what they do when they preach so hatefully against gay people) it is still a big worry or at least should be for pastors.  </p>
<p>One of my moms best friends is the daughter of our pastor.  She turned out ok, but i have heard way to many stories of PKs committing suicide because the environment they are raised in was so strict it never gave them the freedom to test boundaries and discover themselves.</p>
<p>I only hope that the gay community can step up at give this kid a hand.  He&#8217;s got to be in a lot of pain right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 22:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael Kensinger,

You are correct about Allen Keyes.

As for Phyllis Schaffley&#039;s gay son, he works for her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael Kensinger,</p>
<p>You are correct about Allen Keyes.</p>
<p>As for Phyllis Schaffley&#8217;s gay son, he works for her.</p>
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