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		<title>By: Louie</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/02/16/8834/comment-page-1#comment-33685</link>
		<dc:creator>Louie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 05:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If these people don&#039;t care what God says &quot;Love your neighbor&quot;, then I&#039;m sure they could care less about what the law of man says &quot;lapsed corporation&quot;.

They don&#039;t care and there are people in positions of power that will simply look the other way and not prosecute them equally under the law!

We need to stop with the focus groups and polling, etc.

WWHMD!?!?!?

What Would Harvey Milk Do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If these people don&#8217;t care what God says &#8220;Love your neighbor&#8221;, then I&#8217;m sure they could care less about what the law of man says &#8220;lapsed corporation&#8221;.</p>
<p>They don&#8217;t care and there are people in positions of power that will simply look the other way and not prosecute them equally under the law!</p>
<p>We need to stop with the focus groups and polling, etc.</p>
<p>WWHMD!?!?!?</p>
<p>What Would Harvey Milk Do?</p>
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		<title>By: Stefano A</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/02/16/8834/comment-page-1#comment-33661</link>
		<dc:creator>Stefano A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 02:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cowboy:

This is a bit of a distraction, but regarding America Forever that you mentioned . . .

Sandra Rodriguez and Jonas Filho (who filed the incorporation papers for the foundation) have broken the law in two ways with America Forever and that ad: First, the non-profit is operating illegally, the incorporation papers for the foundation lapsed in 2007; Second, thus they&#039;re asking for financial donations for a no longer recognized nonprofit, and even if their non-profit status hadn&#039;t lapsed it&#039;s illegal for the type of nonprofit they registered as with the State Dept of Commerce to take money for use for political purposes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cowboy:</p>
<p>This is a bit of a distraction, but regarding America Forever that you mentioned . . .</p>
<p>Sandra Rodriguez and Jonas Filho (who filed the incorporation papers for the foundation) have broken the law in two ways with America Forever and that ad: First, the non-profit is operating illegally, the incorporation papers for the foundation lapsed in 2007; Second, thus they&#8217;re asking for financial donations for a no longer recognized nonprofit, and even if their non-profit status hadn&#8217;t lapsed it&#8217;s illegal for the type of nonprofit they registered as with the State Dept of Commerce to take money for use for political purposes.</p>
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		<title>By: David C.</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/02/16/8834/comment-page-1#comment-33660</link>
		<dc:creator>David C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 02:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;No court or leader who cares to be taken seriously or person who cares about their duty to the public should allow such things.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This presumes that the leaders in question are principled.  I would be more likely to trust jurists (judges).  The nonsense about &quot;activist judges&quot; was manufactured by right-wing ideologues.

Every smear tactic has and will be used against gay people.  It is up to us to ensure that we rise above such tactics and not give into the temptation to become just like our oppressors.  Nevertheless, we must be firm, vigilant, and work to be heard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>No court or leader who cares to be taken seriously or person who cares about their duty to the public should allow such things.</p></blockquote>
<p>This presumes that the leaders in question are principled.  I would be more likely to trust jurists (judges).  The nonsense about &#8220;activist judges&#8221; was manufactured by right-wing ideologues.</p>
<p>Every smear tactic has and will be used against gay people.  It is up to us to ensure that we rise above such tactics and not give into the temptation to become just like our oppressors.  Nevertheless, we must be firm, vigilant, and work to be heard.</p>
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		<title>By: Regan DuCasse</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/02/16/8834/comment-page-1#comment-33658</link>
		<dc:creator>Regan DuCasse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 01:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fear based ads won the Prop. 8 campaign. And there is nothing so profoundly bad as fear based public policy.

   No court or leader who cares to be taken seriously or person who cares about their duty to the public should allow such things.
  Especially against a minority that&#039;s already been maligned and defamed so much, not even 15 year old gay students are safe from cold blooded execution at school, nor straight brothers walking home together who happen to be affectionate towards each other.

   Fear and violence are not the tools of the gay community for being believed and respected, so how can they be blamed for it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fear based ads won the Prop. 8 campaign. And there is nothing so profoundly bad as fear based public policy.</p>
<p>   No court or leader who cares to be taken seriously or person who cares about their duty to the public should allow such things.<br />
  Especially against a minority that&#8217;s already been maligned and defamed so much, not even 15 year old gay students are safe from cold blooded execution at school, nor straight brothers walking home together who happen to be affectionate towards each other.</p>
<p>   Fear and violence are not the tools of the gay community for being believed and respected, so how can they be blamed for it?</p>
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		<title>By: Ben in Oakland</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/02/16/8834/comment-page-1#comment-33650</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben in Oakland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 00:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Louie--better to say no more closet, no more closet campaigns.

The closet was the reaosn we lost on 8, not the anti-gays. We cooperated with them by sraying in the closet in the campaign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Louie&#8211;better to say no more closet, no more closet campaigns.</p>
<p>The closet was the reaosn we lost on 8, not the anti-gays. We cooperated with them by sraying in the closet in the campaign.</p>
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		<title>By: Louie</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/02/16/8834/comment-page-1#comment-33648</link>
		<dc:creator>Louie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 00:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope that ALL of us in the gay community have learned our bitter lessons from the California Prop. 8 battle that we lost.

These &quot;Christians&quot; will lie, cheat, steal, extort and do &lt;em&gt;WHATEVER IT TAKES&lt;/em&gt; to enact legislation &lt;em&gt;AGAINST&lt;/em&gt; members of the entire LGBT community.

We cannot allow these people to control the debate and malign us with impunity.

We cannot sit back and allow ourselves to think that nobody will actually &quot;buy&quot; what these people are selling. Because as we all learned in the bitter lessons of Prop. 8, Prop. 102, Amendment 2 and Act 1, the electorate WILL believe these things hook, line and sinker!

&lt;b&gt;NO MORE NICE GAY!&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope that ALL of us in the gay community have learned our bitter lessons from the California Prop. 8 battle that we lost.</p>
<p>These &#8220;Christians&#8221; will lie, cheat, steal, extort and do <em>WHATEVER IT TAKES</em> to enact legislation <em>AGAINST</em> members of the entire LGBT community.</p>
<p>We cannot allow these people to control the debate and malign us with impunity.</p>
<p>We cannot sit back and allow ourselves to think that nobody will actually &#8220;buy&#8221; what these people are selling. Because as we all learned in the bitter lessons of Prop. 8, Prop. 102, Amendment 2 and Act 1, the electorate WILL believe these things hook, line and sinker!</p>
<p><b>NO MORE NICE GAY!</b></p>
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		<title>By: The Story So Far&#8230; &#187; Blog Archive &#187; How The Game Is Played&#8230;(continued)</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/02/16/8834/comment-page-1#comment-33647</link>
		<dc:creator>The Story So Far&#8230; &#187; Blog Archive &#187; How The Game Is Played&#8230;(continued)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 23:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jim Burroway makes a good catch I&#8217;d missed when looking at the new anti-gay ad campaign created by Campaign Secrets&#8230;the one that shows an unseen gay sniper putting a family and more specifically their little children in the crosshairs.&#160; This one is good&#8230;it really says it all&#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Jim Burroway makes a good catch I&#8217;d missed when looking at the new anti-gay ad campaign created by Campaign Secrets&#8230;the one that shows an unseen gay sniper putting a family and more specifically their little children in the crosshairs.&nbsp; This one is good&#8230;it really says it all&#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Garrett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce Garrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 23:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes...we in the Homosexual Conspiracy have been working patiently on The Gay Agenda for many decades.  It was We who conspired many years ago to end the school year before Father&#039;s Day, so there would be no Father&#039;s Day celebrations in school.  Our cunning plan was a complete success.  Or would have been if it wasn&#039;t for you meddling kids...

Thank you Jim, for another good catch of how devious the anti-gay propagandists are.  That little tidbit is actually, to my mind, way more telling then the crosshairs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes&#8230;we in the Homosexual Conspiracy have been working patiently on The Gay Agenda for many decades.  It was We who conspired many years ago to end the school year before Father&#8217;s Day, so there would be no Father&#8217;s Day celebrations in school.  Our cunning plan was a complete success.  Or would have been if it wasn&#8217;t for you meddling kids&#8230;</p>
<p>Thank you Jim, for another good catch of how devious the anti-gay propagandists are.  That little tidbit is actually, to my mind, way more telling then the crosshairs.</p>
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		<title>By: cowboy</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/02/16/8834/comment-page-1#comment-33640</link>
		<dc:creator>cowboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The America Forever ad in the newspaper and their &quot;anti-species&quot; t-shirt and now this video... it makes you wonder:

We are getting under THEIR skin.  They&#039;re worried.  They are seeing our potential success for gaining equality and these are their desperate attempts to thwart our advances with an increasingly sympathetic populace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The America Forever ad in the newspaper and their &#8220;anti-species&#8221; t-shirt and now this video&#8230; it makes you wonder:</p>
<p>We are getting under THEIR skin.  They&#8217;re worried.  They are seeing our potential success for gaining equality and these are their desperate attempts to thwart our advances with an increasingly sympathetic populace.</p>
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		<title>By: Attmay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Attmay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These people are monsters. If Jesus were alive, he&#039;d be leading the mob to tar and feather them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These people are monsters. If Jesus were alive, he&#8217;d be leading the mob to tar and feather them.</p>
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