Comments on: Lutheran Task Force Supports Couple Recognition http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/02/21/9054 News, analysis and fact-checking of anti-gay rhetoric Sat, 18 May 2013 21:32:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: Piper http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/02/21/9054/comment-page-1#comment-34419 Piper Mon, 23 Feb 2009 16:18:31 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=9054#comment-34419 PSUdain, I think you and I are in the same boat here. I remember once in high school I had a friend who to make a long story short I hit on the back of the head because he made a very homophobic and rude statement. Three years later, when he was on break from TLU (Texas Lutheran U) he asked me to look at a paper he had written. He had written a paper in defense of gay clergy, and he said that had it not been for people like me constantly challenging him he never would have gotten to that point. I know for a fact that the Lutheran Church (at least ELCA)can come out on the side of equality. They just need some gentle nudges. ( shoves will just scare the church back into the closet) PSUdain, I think you and I are in the same boat here.

I remember once in high school I had a friend who to make a long story short I hit on the back of the head because he made a very homophobic and rude statement. Three years later, when he was on break from TLU (Texas Lutheran U) he asked me to look at a paper he had written. He had written a paper in defense of gay clergy, and he said that had it not been for people like me constantly challenging him he never would have gotten to that point.

I know for a fact that the Lutheran Church (at least ELCA)can come out on the side of equality. They just need some gentle nudges. ( shoves will just scare the church back into the closet)

]]> By: PSUdain http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/02/21/9054/comment-page-1#comment-34378 PSUdain Mon, 23 Feb 2009 05:21:28 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=9054#comment-34378 Did not mean at all to steal piper's phrase...accidental echo there... Did not mean at all to steal piper’s phrase…accidental echo there…

]]> By: PSUdain http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/02/21/9054/comment-page-1#comment-34377 PSUdain Mon, 23 Feb 2009 05:13:08 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=9054#comment-34377 I cried when I saw the recommendations (happily, not sadly). As an ELCA member since birth, and as an active member of my campus Lutheran community, I've been watching this for a while. I had a date with a printer right around 1pm on Thursday when they released the recommendations and the Statement on Human Sexuality. No, they didn't go all the way, but I didn't expect them to touch any kind of relationship recognition... I think it's a good start; now we just have to get it passed at Churchwide Assembly. I cried when I saw the recommendations (happily, not sadly). As an ELCA member since birth, and as an active member of my campus Lutheran community, I’ve been watching this for a while. I had a date with a printer right around 1pm on Thursday when they released the recommendations and the Statement on Human Sexuality.

No, they didn’t go all the way, but I didn’t expect them to touch any kind of relationship recognition…

I think it’s a good start; now we just have to get it passed at Churchwide Assembly.

]]> By: Piper http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/02/21/9054/comment-page-1#comment-34262 Piper Sun, 22 Feb 2009 00:07:45 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=9054#comment-34262 Yeah, the key word is "Eventually"! As an ELCA member since birth ,(parents met at the church, so it's always been a second home) I remember so many conventions when I was in high school where this was the biggest issue, and we got no where! although even though I was in the very conservative NTNL synod (Northern Texas Northern Louisiana) there were always a few people there who were opening up slowly. Lutherans NEVER do anything with speed. They look at the issue from 360% at least 100 hundred times and then convene several different committees to decide how the issue should be studied then more committees to set up a committee of theologians to biblically study the texts that apply to the issues. And if they don't come to a unanimous decision they start all over again! ( I'm exaggerating I know, it just gets really old after awhile!) Yeah, the key word is “Eventually”! As an ELCA member since birth ,(parents met at the church, so it’s always been a second home) I remember so many conventions when I was in high school where this was the biggest issue, and we got no where! although even though I was in the very conservative NTNL synod (Northern Texas Northern Louisiana) there were always a few people there who were opening up slowly.

Lutherans NEVER do anything with speed. They look at the issue from 360% at least 100 hundred times and then convene several different committees to decide how the issue should be studied then more committees to set up a committee of theologians to biblically study the texts that apply to the issues. And if they don’t come to a unanimous decision they start all over again! ( I’m exaggerating I know, it just gets really old after awhile!)

]]> By: Pomo http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/02/21/9054/comment-page-1#comment-34255 Pomo Sat, 21 Feb 2009 23:14:28 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=9054#comment-34255 We're slowing coming around. My church is welcoming but I can't yet get married within its walls even though the pastors would support it. The ELCA will get there eventually... We’re slowing coming around. My church is welcoming but I can’t yet get married within its walls even though the pastors would support it. The ELCA will get there eventually…

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