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	<title>Comments on: Exodus Board Member Joins Nazi Revisionist At Uganda Conference</title>
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	<description>News, analysis and fact-checking of anti-gay rhetoric</description>
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		<title>By: mitchell hirsch</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/02/24/9098/comment-page-1#comment-62460</link>
		<dc:creator>mitchell hirsch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 22:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am Jewish and Gay, perhaps giving me some inate insight into what&#039;s going on. For one thing, the Holocaust: I&#039;ve heard it all, Jews did it, Gays did it, Stalin did it for propoganda, Catholics did it, ect. OK. (&quot;they&quot; say) about 3 million Jews in Poland in 1933.About half a million Jews in Germany. Etc, Ect, Ect. Look at Europe today. There are I believe about 4,000 Jews now in Poland. In many parts of Eastern Europe, the people still, today, insist the Jews rule the world, and conspire to do so. I am from NYC. I know Jews, and Gays. I have never, ever, heard of this so-called conspiracy. Logically, that must mean either the Gays are anti-semetic, or the Jews are all homophobic, or both.
     Only I it seems have heard anti-semetic, homophobic slurs, know the Ho;ocaust happened, have known survivors, with tatoos. My parents, and grandarents, and those of most of my Jewish friends growing up say they knew about the killings during the War.WWII veterans claim they saw the camps in Germany. 
  &quot;after all that&#039;s happened, I still believe people are basically good&quot;         Anne Frank
 
I give up,Let&#039;s say not a single straight , German, Caucasian, Christian Laid a finger on a single Jew from 1933 to 1945. OK?  So, what are we to do about this? Why, we must kill all the Jews for this fraud. Yes? Gays are from the devil. Let&#039;s kill anyone we know is Gay. Why it would almost be as wonderfull as Iran? Or maybe even medieval Europe. Let&#039;s burn witches while we&#039;re at it. Burn all the Pornography. 

And round and round we go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am Jewish and Gay, perhaps giving me some inate insight into what&#8217;s going on. For one thing, the Holocaust: I&#8217;ve heard it all, Jews did it, Gays did it, Stalin did it for propoganda, Catholics did it, ect. OK. (&#8221;they&#8221; say) about 3 million Jews in Poland in 1933.About half a million Jews in Germany. Etc, Ect, Ect. Look at Europe today. There are I believe about 4,000 Jews now in Poland. In many parts of Eastern Europe, the people still, today, insist the Jews rule the world, and conspire to do so. I am from NYC. I know Jews, and Gays. I have never, ever, heard of this so-called conspiracy. Logically, that must mean either the Gays are anti-semetic, or the Jews are all homophobic, or both.<br />
     Only I it seems have heard anti-semetic, homophobic slurs, know the Ho;ocaust happened, have known survivors, with tatoos. My parents, and grandarents, and those of most of my Jewish friends growing up say they knew about the killings during the War.WWII veterans claim they saw the camps in Germany.<br />
  &#8220;after all that&#8217;s happened, I still believe people are basically good&#8221;         Anne Frank</p>
<p>I give up,Let&#8217;s say not a single straight , German, Caucasian, Christian Laid a finger on a single Jew from 1933 to 1945. OK?  So, what are we to do about this? Why, we must kill all the Jews for this fraud. Yes? Gays are from the devil. Let&#8217;s kill anyone we know is Gay. Why it would almost be as wonderfull as Iran? Or maybe even medieval Europe. Let&#8217;s burn witches while we&#8217;re at it. Burn all the Pornography. </p>
<p>And round and round we go.</p>
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		<title>By: Uganda&#8217;s Anti-Homosexuality Bill: The Hall of Shame &#124; The Official Gays.com Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/02/24/9098/comment-page-1#comment-61424</link>
		<dc:creator>Uganda&#8217;s Anti-Homosexuality Bill: The Hall of Shame &#124; The Official Gays.com Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 05:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Langa is the director of the conservative Family Life Network which put together an  anti-gay conference in March which featured three American ex-gay / anti-gay activists: Exodus board member Don [...]</description>
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		<title>By: rcbarron</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/02/24/9098/comment-page-1#comment-59621</link>
		<dc:creator>rcbarron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 14:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are all forgetting, facts and scholarship have nothing to do with anything.  These guys know that lies and deception gain them what they want and unfortunately too many people are too ready to believe them.  This is the problem.  This is exactly the way the Bush administration worked...and it works!!!  If only for so long. 

So we have to do a better job messaging and less worrying about whether the messenger that has evil intent is telling the truth or who he is.  Unfortunately most don&#039;t seem to care, they only drink the rhetoric and act on it while we sit around and pompously talk about them being frauds.  Rove taught them to shape and make up reality and we need to realize that is what we are dealing with and forget about scholarship!  I promise you there is a capitalist angle to all this pandering...look deeper..bet there is something else behind their sudden concern for Uganda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are all forgetting, facts and scholarship have nothing to do with anything.  These guys know that lies and deception gain them what they want and unfortunately too many people are too ready to believe them.  This is the problem.  This is exactly the way the Bush administration worked&#8230;and it works!!!  If only for so long. </p>
<p>So we have to do a better job messaging and less worrying about whether the messenger that has evil intent is telling the truth or who he is.  Unfortunately most don&#8217;t seem to care, they only drink the rhetoric and act on it while we sit around and pompously talk about them being frauds.  Rove taught them to shape and make up reality and we need to realize that is what we are dealing with and forget about scholarship!  I promise you there is a capitalist angle to all this pandering&#8230;look deeper..bet there is something else behind their sudden concern for Uganda.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Lively&#8217;s Unbridled Evil On Display &#124; Asterisk</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/02/24/9098/comment-page-1#comment-59068</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Lively&#8217;s Unbridled Evil On Display &#124; Asterisk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 20:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] first mentioned the Kill The Gays bill last April, but Jim Burroway at Box Turtle Bulletin was on the case when the conference was still being organized. Rachel Maddow has recently lent some much-overdue [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Vile Sociopath Scott Lively Drops His &#8220;Nuclear Bomb&#8221; On Gays &#171; Reality Bong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vile Sociopath Scott Lively Drops His &#8220;Nuclear Bomb&#8221; On Gays &#171; Reality Bong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 19:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] by Tom   Box Turtle Bulletin obtained videos of the VILE SOCIOPATH Scott Lively at his March 2009 conference in Kampala, Uganda.  See the three videos and read the reporting by Box Turtle Bulletin.  I [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Newsweek: PEPFAR funds will not be held for Uganda &#8212; Warren Throckmorton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Newsweek: PEPFAR funds will not be held for Uganda &#8212; Warren Throckmorton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 16:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is just as disturbing, since this latest round of anti-gay fervor was kicked off at a conference held by by American missionary groups that went to proselytize about the twin evils of Nazism and homosexual behavior in Kampala earlier [...]</description>
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		<title>By: U.N. official and U.S. religious right AGREE on MURDER of lgbt&#8217;s &#171; Reality Bong</title>
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		<dc:creator>U.N. official and U.S. religious right AGREE on MURDER of lgbt&#8217;s &#171; Reality Bong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 17:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the death penalty for &#8220;homosexual acts&#8221;, following a conference in Kampala, Uganda.  The Watchmen On The Walls, Scott Lively (Holocaust revisionist) and his co-whatevers &#8230; story on Box Turtle [...]</description>
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		<title>By: William</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/02/24/9098/comment-page-1#comment-51724</link>
		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I think &#039;Nazi Revisionist&#039; is actually worse than &#039;Holocaust Revisionist.&#039; It looks as though it suggests that Lively is a Nazi.&quot;

Well, Quo III, Lively is certainly a Nazi Revisionist in the sense that he maintains that the Nazi persecution of gays as such didn&#039;t take place, that the persecution was only of &quot;effeminate&quot; homosexuals, and that &quot;non-effeminate&quot; homosexuals were responsible for it.

Lively has also been busy encouraging the Ugandans to treat homosexual people in a very similar way to the way that the Nazis treated us, so if he&#039;s not a Nazi, he&#039;s something rather like one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I think &#8216;Nazi Revisionist&#8217; is actually worse than &#8216;Holocaust Revisionist.&#8217; It looks as though it suggests that Lively is a Nazi.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, Quo III, Lively is certainly a Nazi Revisionist in the sense that he maintains that the Nazi persecution of gays as such didn&#8217;t take place, that the persecution was only of &#8220;effeminate&#8221; homosexuals, and that &#8220;non-effeminate&#8221; homosexuals were responsible for it.</p>
<p>Lively has also been busy encouraging the Ugandans to treat homosexual people in a very similar way to the way that the Nazis treated us, so if he&#8217;s not a Nazi, he&#8217;s something rather like one.</p>
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		<title>By: Strange, True &#38; Religious : Conference in Uganda by 3 American professional anti-gays sets off strange feeding frenzy with pastors accusing rivals of gayness, miracle faking and human sacrifices</title>
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		<dc:creator>Strange, True &#38; Religious : Conference in Uganda by 3 American professional anti-gays sets off strange feeding frenzy with pastors accusing rivals of gayness, miracle faking and human sacrifices</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 22:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Feb 24: Exodus Board Member Joins Nazi Revisionist At Uganda Conference [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Dissident Voice : The Christian Right’s Worldwide Anti-Gay Crusade</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/02/24/9098/comment-page-1#comment-40087</link>
		<dc:creator>Dissident Voice : The Christian Right’s Worldwide Anti-Gay Crusade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 16:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] this year, UGPulse.com reported that the Family Life Network, &#8220;has organized a training seminar to equip Ugandans with [...]</description>
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