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	<title>Comments on: LaBarbera Award: Mat Staver</title>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 18:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, Mat Staver would have a sh*t fit if he saw my family:

We have a daughter (biologically my husband&#039;s).  She lives with us (two dads).  She also lives at her mom&#039;s (mom, her boyfriend, boyfriend&#039;s daughter from past relationship, and new baby from current relationship with mom).  So, the daughter has three dads (where two are step dads in different relationships), one mom, one step-sister and one half brother.

She also attends a Catholic School where the staff all know who about this.

As a result, the crime rate has not increased nor is daughter suffering in anyway.  If anything, she&#039;s one of the popular kids in school.  But of course that&#039;s not a surprise considering she has two gay dads who show her how to be the coolest kid in school and be well loved.

Mr.Staver lives in a small world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, Mat Staver would have a sh*t fit if he saw my family:</p>
<p>We have a daughter (biologically my husband&#8217;s).  She lives with us (two dads).  She also lives at her mom&#8217;s (mom, her boyfriend, boyfriend&#8217;s daughter from past relationship, and new baby from current relationship with mom).  So, the daughter has three dads (where two are step dads in different relationships), one mom, one step-sister and one half brother.</p>
<p>She also attends a Catholic School where the staff all know who about this.</p>
<p>As a result, the crime rate has not increased nor is daughter suffering in anyway.  If anything, she&#8217;s one of the popular kids in school.  But of course that&#8217;s not a surprise considering she has two gay dads who show her how to be the coolest kid in school and be well loved.</p>
<p>Mr.Staver lives in a small world.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristie</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/02/27/9209/comment-page-1#comment-34951</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 04:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If this idiot thinks that gay marriage leads to crimnal behavior then maybe the real question he should be asking all those violent offenders is how many of them were raised by lesbian couples or male couples? I&#039;d be willing to bet that he wouldn&#039;t get very many postive responses. 

The fact is that kids do best when they have two loving parents and that is regardless of their gender. Maybe if he actually DID read a few of those sociological repots he would know that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this idiot thinks that gay marriage leads to crimnal behavior then maybe the real question he should be asking all those violent offenders is how many of them were raised by lesbian couples or male couples? I&#8217;d be willing to bet that he wouldn&#8217;t get very many postive responses. </p>
<p>The fact is that kids do best when they have two loving parents and that is regardless of their gender. Maybe if he actually DID read a few of those sociological repots he would know that.</p>
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		<title>By: Regan DuCasse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Regan DuCasse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 03:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Attmay! GOOD one!
 I love you folks, you really know how to lay it all out in the most intellectually honest and forthright way.

     I get truly furious at people like Staver and their intellectual dishonesty, and how disingenuous they can be.

   It&#039;s true, that interviewing inmates in prison, most of them didn&#039;t have a DECENT father.
A father who provided financial and physical support to them.
 And also there is often reinforcement of negativity about the other parent who is lacking in that support.
    This contributes to low self esteem and low expectations in and of the child.
 And THIS is what contributes to criminality, as well as ABUSIVE, violent fathers who themselves are incarcerated or dead from a life of crime.

     This is what happens when lazy people rely on the Stavers, and LaBarberas and so on for their information, instead of investigating thoroughly what they are saying or IF it&#039;s even true.
 And want SO MUCH to believe also that gay people contribute to almost ALL social problems, directly or indirectly.

      And don&#039;t seem to especially care WHY they want to believe it, even if it&#039;s NOT in the Bible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Attmay! GOOD one!<br />
 I love you folks, you really know how to lay it all out in the most intellectually honest and forthright way.</p>
<p>     I get truly furious at people like Staver and their intellectual dishonesty, and how disingenuous they can be.</p>
<p>   It&#8217;s true, that interviewing inmates in prison, most of them didn&#8217;t have a DECENT father.<br />
A father who provided financial and physical support to them.<br />
 And also there is often reinforcement of negativity about the other parent who is lacking in that support.<br />
    This contributes to low self esteem and low expectations in and of the child.<br />
 And THIS is what contributes to criminality, as well as ABUSIVE, violent fathers who themselves are incarcerated or dead from a life of crime.</p>
<p>     This is what happens when lazy people rely on the Stavers, and LaBarberas and so on for their information, instead of investigating thoroughly what they are saying or IF it&#8217;s even true.<br />
 And want SO MUCH to believe also that gay people contribute to almost ALL social problems, directly or indirectly.</p>
<p>      And don&#8217;t seem to especially care WHY they want to believe it, even if it&#8217;s NOT in the Bible.</p>
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		<title>By: Swampfox</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/02/27/9209/comment-page-1#comment-34943</link>
		<dc:creator>Swampfox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 02:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to know how many people like this man made attacks upon the gay and lesbian community at the CPAC convention? I wish Dick Cheney would attend with his lesbian daughter and the fist time someone like this moron took the stage they both would just get up and walk out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to know how many people like this man made attacks upon the gay and lesbian community at the CPAC convention? I wish Dick Cheney would attend with his lesbian daughter and the fist time someone like this moron took the stage they both would just get up and walk out.</p>
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		<title>By: Zeke</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/02/27/9209/comment-page-1#comment-34938</link>
		<dc:creator>Zeke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 01:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, when they say that God ordained heterosexual marriage in the Garden of Eden I have to ask them, &quot;He clearly ordained incest too&quot; how else can you explain how all humans descended from one man and one woman?

And by the way, not only do many of the children of gay people have fathers, many, like mine, have TWO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, when they say that God ordained heterosexual marriage in the Garden of Eden I have to ask them, &#8220;He clearly ordained incest too&#8221; how else can you explain how all humans descended from one man and one woman?</p>
<p>And by the way, not only do many of the children of gay people have fathers, many, like mine, have TWO.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/02/27/9209/comment-page-1#comment-34935</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 00:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Attmay,

&lt;blockquote&gt;Cain and Abel had a mother and father.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh that made me smile.

I&#039;m sure you know that one of the &quot;really convincing&quot; points of anti-gays is that God Ordained Heterosexual Marriage In The Garden of Eden.

To which my new response is going to be, &quot;Yeah, and see how great their kids turned out.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Attmay,</p>
<blockquote><p>Cain and Abel had a mother and father.</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh that made me smile.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure you know that one of the &#8220;really convincing&#8221; points of anti-gays is that God Ordained Heterosexual Marriage In The Garden of Eden.</p>
<p>To which my new response is going to be, &#8220;Yeah, and see how great their kids turned out.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Eddie89</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eddie89</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 00:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just hope that we are not the only ones that see these people as desperate and delusional.

We need the general public to see these people as desperate and delusional.

Otherwise the voters will believe these blatant LIES and keep on voting for anti-gay ballot measures and keep sending these people to elected office!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just hope that we are not the only ones that see these people as desperate and delusional.</p>
<p>We need the general public to see these people as desperate and delusional.</p>
<p>Otherwise the voters will believe these blatant LIES and keep on voting for anti-gay ballot measures and keep sending these people to elected office!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Attmay</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/02/27/9209/comment-page-1#comment-34928</link>
		<dc:creator>Attmay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 00:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We might just get gay marriage based on the sheer intellectual laziness of its opponents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We might just get gay marriage based on the sheer intellectual laziness of its opponents.</p>
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		<title>By: homer</title>
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		<dc:creator>homer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 22:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They are getting so desperate and delusional. It is really pathetic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are getting so desperate and delusional. It is really pathetic.</p>
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		<title>By: Attmay</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/02/27/9209/comment-page-1#comment-34914</link>
		<dc:creator>Attmay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 22:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cain and Abel had a mother and father.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cain and Abel had a mother and father.</p>
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