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	<title>Comments on: Open Letter To the Exodus International Board of Directors</title>
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		<title>By: Michael Bussee</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/03/11/9615/comment-page-1#comment-60019</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Bussee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 22:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not part of any organization, but as one of the founders of Exodus,I SO wish I could sign this letter.  I whole-heartedly AGREE!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not part of any organization, but as one of the founders of Exodus,I SO wish I could sign this letter.  I whole-heartedly AGREE!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Strange, True &#38; Religious : Conference in Uganda by 3 professional anti-gays from U.S. sets off strange feeding frenzy as pastors accuse rivals of gayness, miracle faking and human sacrifices</title>
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		<dc:creator>Strange, True &#38; Religious : Conference in Uganda by 3 professional anti-gays from U.S. sets off strange feeding frenzy as pastors accuse rivals of gayness, miracle faking and human sacrifices</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 23:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Emily K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emily K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 02:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Truth Wins Out has videos of scientists talking about it, you&#039;re welcome to pop on over there and browse.

I&#039;ve found that the reason people don&#039;t offer citations is because they don&#039;t have any. 

And anyway, bigotted uninformed parents will not see a difference between &quot;being the cause of&quot; their child&#039;s [filthy sinful awful] homosexuality and &quot;being the ones to blame for&quot; their child&#039;s [filthy awful sinful] homosexuality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truth Wins Out has videos of scientists talking about it, you&#8217;re welcome to pop on over there and browse.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve found that the reason people don&#8217;t offer citations is because they don&#8217;t have any. </p>
<p>And anyway, bigotted uninformed parents will not see a difference between &#8220;being the cause of&#8221; their child&#8217;s [filthy sinful awful] homosexuality and &#8220;being the ones to blame for&#8221; their child&#8217;s [filthy awful sinful] homosexuality.</p>
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		<title>By: quo III</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/03/11/9615/comment-page-1#comment-36366</link>
		<dc:creator>quo III</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 09:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Emily,

The reason why I am not making citations (which I don&#039;t see you offering either) is because my main point wasn&#039;t about the causation of homosexuality, just the oddness of equating a particular opinion on that subject with the idea that homosexuals are responsible for the Holocaust.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emily,</p>
<p>The reason why I am not making citations (which I don&#8217;t see you offering either) is because my main point wasn&#8217;t about the causation of homosexuality, just the oddness of equating a particular opinion on that subject with the idea that homosexuals are responsible for the Holocaust.</p>
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		<title>By: Emily K</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/03/11/9615/comment-page-1#comment-36357</link>
		<dc:creator>Emily K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 01:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>quo, unless you come up with statements other than &quot;might be partly true&quot; and start making citations, none of it carries weight.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_memory_syndrome&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This is what I mean&lt;/a&gt; by &quot;abuse that is not remembered.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>quo, unless you come up with statements other than &#8220;might be partly true&#8221; and start making citations, none of it carries weight.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_memory_syndrome" rel="nofollow">This is what I mean</a> by &#8220;abuse that is not remembered.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: quo III</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/03/11/9615/comment-page-1#comment-36339</link>
		<dc:creator>quo III</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 20:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Emily K,

I really don&#039;t know what you mean about sexual abuse that people can&#039;t remember. As for other kinds of parental behaviour being responsible for homosexuality - yes, that might well be partly true (in the opinion of various respected researchers, Kenneth Zucker, Seymour Fisher, among others). 

My main point, however, was theories like this are in no way the equivalent of the various other statements (about the Holocaust, etc) at the Uganda conference. It shows a lack of a sense of proportion to suggest that they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emily K,</p>
<p>I really don&#8217;t know what you mean about sexual abuse that people can&#8217;t remember. As for other kinds of parental behaviour being responsible for homosexuality &#8211; yes, that might well be partly true (in the opinion of various respected researchers, Kenneth Zucker, Seymour Fisher, among others). </p>
<p>My main point, however, was theories like this are in no way the equivalent of the various other statements (about the Holocaust, etc) at the Uganda conference. It shows a lack of a sense of proportion to suggest that they are.</p>
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		<title>By: Eddie89</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eddie89</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I accuse my parents!

Because of them I am gay. Since I inherited their genes and DNA, which is what caused me to be born gay. As well as with brown skin, brown eyes and black hair!

I am PROUD to have inherited all of these traits and I am thankful to my parents for having passed them on to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I accuse my parents!</p>
<p>Because of them I am gay. Since I inherited their genes and DNA, which is what caused me to be born gay. As well as with brown skin, brown eyes and black hair!</p>
<p>I am PROUD to have inherited all of these traits and I am thankful to my parents for having passed them on to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Emily K</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/03/11/9615/comment-page-1#comment-36308</link>
		<dc:creator>Emily K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 07:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;That theory might be partly true&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Which part, exactly? The part about the over-bearing mother and absent father, or the part about sexual abuse that gays just can&#039;t seem to remember at all? (must be the trauma of being gay that represses it.)

The so-called &quot;environmental&quot; factors of homosexual orientation have already been put under study, and &quot;environmental&quot; doesn&#039;t automatically mean &quot;nurture-induced.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>That theory might be partly true</p></blockquote>
<p>Which part, exactly? The part about the over-bearing mother and absent father, or the part about sexual abuse that gays just can&#8217;t seem to remember at all? (must be the trauma of being gay that represses it.)</p>
<p>The so-called &#8220;environmental&#8221; factors of homosexual orientation have already been put under study, and &#8220;environmental&#8221; doesn&#8217;t automatically mean &#8220;nurture-induced.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: quo III</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/03/11/9615/comment-page-1#comment-36304</link>
		<dc:creator>quo III</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 05:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With all respect, I don&#039;t think that the idea that parents are to blame for their children&#039;s homosexuality should be called &quot;despicable.&quot; That theory might be partly true (leaving aside the choice of the word &quot;blame&quot;), and it is hardly the equivalent of blaming gay people for the Holocaust or the Rwandan genocide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all respect, I don&#8217;t think that the idea that parents are to blame for their children&#8217;s homosexuality should be called &#8220;despicable.&#8221; That theory might be partly true (leaving aside the choice of the word &#8220;blame&#8221;), and it is hardly the equivalent of blaming gay people for the Holocaust or the Rwandan genocide.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn David</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/03/11/9615/comment-page-1#comment-36198</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynn David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 08:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think we&#039;ll here a thing from Chambers.   This is all about money.   The harder line is wining out at Exodus because the middle is fleeing the Republican and even the more fundamentalist Evangelical groups.  FotF, the AFA and other groups took a hit with their cash reserves fighting for Prop 8 in California and the amendments in Arizona and Florida.  Exodus is likely then hurting also.   They can only get more income by going more hardline conservative.  If Ahmanson&#039;s Fieldstead is committed to helping them out then Schmierer, who works for Fieldstead, will get a free walk from Exodus. 

It&#039;s all about the money, and that&#039;s about as unChristian as Exodus can get.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;ll here a thing from Chambers.   This is all about money.   The harder line is wining out at Exodus because the middle is fleeing the Republican and even the more fundamentalist Evangelical groups.  FotF, the AFA and other groups took a hit with their cash reserves fighting for Prop 8 in California and the amendments in Arizona and Florida.  Exodus is likely then hurting also.   They can only get more income by going more hardline conservative.  If Ahmanson&#8217;s Fieldstead is committed to helping them out then Schmierer, who works for Fieldstead, will get a free walk from Exodus. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s all about the money, and that&#8217;s about as unChristian as Exodus can get.</p>
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