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	<title>Comments on: CORRECTION: Video Determined To Be From Iraq, Victims Likely Weren&#8217;t Gay (Was: Video of Iranian Gays Thrown From Roof)</title>
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		<title>By: Urgent: Important Update About the Publication of a Video Wrongly Identified &#171; Gays Without Borders</title>
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		<dc:creator>Urgent: Important Update About the Publication of a Video Wrongly Identified &#171; Gays Without Borders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;Box Turtle Bulletin&#8221; explains in his post, the right identification of this segment can be called: &#8220;Iraq’s Fedayeen Saddam throwing [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Attmay</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/03/18/9949/comment-page-1#comment-36752</link>
		<dc:creator>Attmay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AJD,

I have an extreme animus towards Christianity and Islam. I am both gay and Jewish, and those religions are specifically devoted to attacks on my people. I will never forgive the Catholics for the Spanish Inquisition or its complicity in the Holocaust (for which Germany got off too lightly). Muslim anti-semitism and homophobia is in a class by itself, and enough for me to support war not only with  the make-believe lands of &quot;Afghanistan&quot; and &quot;Iraq&quot;, but all Islamic &quot;nations&quot; whose sovereignty I do not respect. Forget about spreading &quot;democracy&quot; (a concept that I abhor because it is nothing but mob rule, and we all know what that means for gays) to these benighted hell holes unless they can be fully progressivized and westernized. Nor will I support even the idea of a &quot;Palestinian&quot; state while Islam is in the mix.

I refuse to respect the sovereignty of any nation where homosexuality is illegal. Christian and Islamic fundamentalism are scourges that must be wiped from the earth by any means necessary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AJD,</p>
<p>I have an extreme animus towards Christianity and Islam. I am both gay and Jewish, and those religions are specifically devoted to attacks on my people. I will never forgive the Catholics for the Spanish Inquisition or its complicity in the Holocaust (for which Germany got off too lightly). Muslim anti-semitism and homophobia is in a class by itself, and enough for me to support war not only with  the make-believe lands of &#8220;Afghanistan&#8221; and &#8220;Iraq&#8221;, but all Islamic &#8220;nations&#8221; whose sovereignty I do not respect. Forget about spreading &#8220;democracy&#8221; (a concept that I abhor because it is nothing but mob rule, and we all know what that means for gays) to these benighted hell holes unless they can be fully progressivized and westernized. Nor will I support even the idea of a &#8220;Palestinian&#8221; state while Islam is in the mix.</p>
<p>I refuse to respect the sovereignty of any nation where homosexuality is illegal. Christian and Islamic fundamentalism are scourges that must be wiped from the earth by any means necessary.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Burroway</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/03/18/9949/comment-page-1#comment-36737</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Burroway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 23:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>B.

I&#039;m glad I was able to be be of service.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>B.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad I was able to be be of service.</p>
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		<title>By: B.</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/03/18/9949/comment-page-1#comment-36735</link>
		<dc:creator>B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Jim for the inquiry you did about this video.
It have been removed from GWB site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Jim for the inquiry you did about this video.<br />
It have been removed from GWB site.</p>
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		<title>By: AJD</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/03/18/9949/comment-page-1#comment-36730</link>
		<dc:creator>AJD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see... However, it should be noted that one of the punishments for homosexuality in Iran is execution by being tossed from a precipice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see&#8230; However, it should be noted that one of the punishments for homosexuality in Iran is execution by being tossed from a precipice.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Milverton</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/03/18/9949/comment-page-1#comment-36725</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Milverton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 20:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The vid is from the CNN news of the year 2003. It shows a scene in Iraq and there is no evidence that the men thrown down from the roof are gays (nevertheless is terrible).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5Sg1k1hlGg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The vid is from the CNN news of the year 2003. It shows a scene in Iraq and there is no evidence that the men thrown down from the roof are gays (nevertheless is terrible).</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5Sg1k1hlGg" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5Sg1k1hlGg</a></p>
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		<title>By: L. Junius Brutus</title>
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		<dc:creator>L. Junius Brutus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zoroastrianism, also from Iran, is the best religion on this earth. At least, in its early form. It only had three commandments: do good deeds, say good words and think good thoughts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zoroastrianism, also from Iran, is the best religion on this earth. At least, in its early form. It only had three commandments: do good deeds, say good words and think good thoughts.</p>
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		<title>By: AJD</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/03/18/9949/comment-page-1#comment-36698</link>
		<dc:creator>AJD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 14:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not about gay people having any personal effect on others; the issue is that the existence of gay people is offensive to God, as far as these Iranian mullahs are concerned. More specifically, Abrahamic homophobia is an outgrowth of those religions&#039; general aversion to any form of sexual activity not meant strictly for reproduction.

It&#039;s really baffling: If two guys have sex with each other, it&#039;s an unforgivable affront to all that is holy, but it&#039;s perfectly acceptable to beat them up or kill them.

I&#039;ve come to agree with Hitchens and others -- it&#039;s nice that there are religious moderates and liberals out there, and I appreciate that they have the wisdom to think for themselves, but the problem is that the Bible and Koran will always contain justification for fundamentalism.

I became atheist after being raised Catholic, practicing Celtic Paganism and trying Buddhism and deciding in the end that none of it ever made any sense to me. However, I admit that I have a particular animus toward Christianity and Islam (not necessarily those who practice them -- I even dated a guy who was Muslim once) because they account for a disproportionate amount of religiously motivated wars, brutality, bigotry and sexual repression throughout history.

Most religions, especially the European Pagan religions and the Dharmic religions in India, have historically been tolerant of other belief systems -- the Romans considered the Celtic gods to be the same as their own, just under different names, and the reason why so many religions evolved in India was because Hinduism tolerated differing interpretations. They&#039;ve also been a lot more forgiving of human nature and natural human impulses. I&#039;m not excusing any of these religions of their own histories of brutality, such as human sacrifice and the caste system, but they don&#039;t even come close to the horrors that have been committed in the names of Islam and Christianity. There&#039;s a reason why you never hear about Wiccan suicide bombers or even the angriest Tibetan Buddhist monks flying airplanes into skyscrapers in Shanghai.

For all the bliss they give those who practice them, Christianity and Islam both have something seriously broken about them. Again, I fully acknowledge that there are plenty of liberals and moderates in both faiths, but the number of crazy and violent people who do and say all sorts of horrible things in the names of those religions are too many for me to think that the Osama bin Ladens, Scott Livelys and brutal executions of innocent people as portrayed in the above video are mere anomalies.

I&#039;m sorry to rant like this, as I&#039;m sure a lot of people will take offense, but I had to get that off my chest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not about gay people having any personal effect on others; the issue is that the existence of gay people is offensive to God, as far as these Iranian mullahs are concerned. More specifically, Abrahamic homophobia is an outgrowth of those religions&#8217; general aversion to any form of sexual activity not meant strictly for reproduction.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s really baffling: If two guys have sex with each other, it&#8217;s an unforgivable affront to all that is holy, but it&#8217;s perfectly acceptable to beat them up or kill them.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve come to agree with Hitchens and others &#8212; it&#8217;s nice that there are religious moderates and liberals out there, and I appreciate that they have the wisdom to think for themselves, but the problem is that the Bible and Koran will always contain justification for fundamentalism.</p>
<p>I became atheist after being raised Catholic, practicing Celtic Paganism and trying Buddhism and deciding in the end that none of it ever made any sense to me. However, I admit that I have a particular animus toward Christianity and Islam (not necessarily those who practice them &#8212; I even dated a guy who was Muslim once) because they account for a disproportionate amount of religiously motivated wars, brutality, bigotry and sexual repression throughout history.</p>
<p>Most religions, especially the European Pagan religions and the Dharmic religions in India, have historically been tolerant of other belief systems &#8212; the Romans considered the Celtic gods to be the same as their own, just under different names, and the reason why so many religions evolved in India was because Hinduism tolerated differing interpretations. They&#8217;ve also been a lot more forgiving of human nature and natural human impulses. I&#8217;m not excusing any of these religions of their own histories of brutality, such as human sacrifice and the caste system, but they don&#8217;t even come close to the horrors that have been committed in the names of Islam and Christianity. There&#8217;s a reason why you never hear about Wiccan suicide bombers or even the angriest Tibetan Buddhist monks flying airplanes into skyscrapers in Shanghai.</p>
<p>For all the bliss they give those who practice them, Christianity and Islam both have something seriously broken about them. Again, I fully acknowledge that there are plenty of liberals and moderates in both faiths, but the number of crazy and violent people who do and say all sorts of horrible things in the names of those religions are too many for me to think that the Osama bin Ladens, Scott Livelys and brutal executions of innocent people as portrayed in the above video are mere anomalies.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry to rant like this, as I&#8217;m sure a lot of people will take offense, but I had to get that off my chest.</p>
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		<title>By: Regan DuCasse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Regan DuCasse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 05:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still can&#039;t get the pictures of those teen Iranian boys being lynched in public from my mind. And I&#039;m a crime scene photog with a VERY strong stomach and a lot else.

   Gay children aren&#039;t safe in OUR country either. The sweet faces of Freddie Martinez, Scotty Joe Weaver and Sakia Gunn and how brutally they suffered their deaths keeps up my gumption.

   The religious fundamentalists who hide behind denial of human and civil rights don&#039;t care to answer the simple question: how does the life and liberty and happiness of a gay person deny you yours?

     Anyone who pretends you didn&#039;t ask it, is a coward.
They don&#039;t even own their own lack of courage. Yeah, it takes REAL GUTS to throw someone from a roof, stab them through the heart and lynch them...how CAN one or a few fight an armed mob after all?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still can&#8217;t get the pictures of those teen Iranian boys being lynched in public from my mind. And I&#8217;m a crime scene photog with a VERY strong stomach and a lot else.</p>
<p>   Gay children aren&#8217;t safe in OUR country either. The sweet faces of Freddie Martinez, Scotty Joe Weaver and Sakia Gunn and how brutally they suffered their deaths keeps up my gumption.</p>
<p>   The religious fundamentalists who hide behind denial of human and civil rights don&#8217;t care to answer the simple question: how does the life and liberty and happiness of a gay person deny you yours?</p>
<p>     Anyone who pretends you didn&#8217;t ask it, is a coward.<br />
They don&#8217;t even own their own lack of courage. Yeah, it takes REAL GUTS to throw someone from a roof, stab them through the heart and lynch them&#8230;how CAN one or a few fight an armed mob after all?</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/03/18/9949/comment-page-1#comment-36681</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 05:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>another powerful reason to declare oneself unashamedly an atheist. thanks gods for answering all those selfish prayers while ignoring the real outrages on this planet. you&#039;re f**king useless as always. sorry to all those who feel compelled to defend you. what a job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>another powerful reason to declare oneself unashamedly an atheist. thanks gods for answering all those selfish prayers while ignoring the real outrages on this planet. you&#8217;re f**king useless as always. sorry to all those who feel compelled to defend you. what a job.</p>
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