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	<title>Comments on: Schmierer&#8217;s &amp; Lively&#8217;s Uganda Talks Continue to Reverberate</title>
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		<title>By: John McPherson</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/03/23/10014/comment-page-1#comment-87974</link>
		<dc:creator>John McPherson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 01:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take action Mr Schmierer,
Regarding Mr Don Schmierer&#039;s belief that he is the victim of someone else&#039;s murder, then may I suggest that he takes appropriate action.
Another trip to Uganda, during which he could spend the time publicly explaining that the reactionary position taken by their daily media has led to this appalling murder of Mr Kato. 
He could also spend a lot of time publicly detailing how such lethal actions are against the word of God.
This would assist in removing the likely eternal stain that is now attached to Don Schmierer&#039;s name, person and past actions.
I fear that this is not likely though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take action Mr Schmierer,<br />
Regarding Mr Don Schmierer&#8217;s belief that he is the victim of someone else&#8217;s murder, then may I suggest that he takes appropriate action.<br />
Another trip to Uganda, during which he could spend the time publicly explaining that the reactionary position taken by their daily media has led to this appalling murder of Mr Kato.<br />
He could also spend a lot of time publicly detailing how such lethal actions are against the word of God.<br />
This would assist in removing the likely eternal stain that is now attached to Don Schmierer&#8217;s name, person and past actions.<br />
I fear that this is not likely though.</p>
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		<title>By: Truth Wins Out - Sour Grapes: The Fruit of Ignorance</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/03/23/10014/comment-page-1#comment-59812</link>
		<dc:creator>Truth Wins Out - Sour Grapes: The Fruit of Ignorance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 10:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] leaders such as Martin Ssempe, James Buturo, Bahati and Yoweri Musseveni and foreign nationals like Alan Chambers, Don Schmierer, Gary Skinner and Rick Warren &#8211; should all face charges of crimes against humanity &#8211; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] leaders such as Martin Ssempe, James Buturo, Bahati and Yoweri Musseveni and foreign nationals like Alan Chambers, Don Schmierer, Gary Skinner and Rick Warren &#8211; should all face charges of crimes against humanity &#8211; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Truth Wins Out - Double Take</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/03/23/10014/comment-page-1#comment-57197</link>
		<dc:creator>Truth Wins Out - Double Take</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 06:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to put them to death for their sexual orientation or gender identity &#8211; but when you look at the things they said in Uganda, and the past few year&#8217;s worth of warning signs I just have to quote that [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to put them to death for their sexual orientation or gender identity &#8211; but when you look at the things they said in Uganda, and the past few year&#8217;s worth of warning signs I just have to quote that [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Double Take &#124; The Monster From The Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Double Take &#124; The Monster From The Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 23:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] put them to death for their sexual orientation or gender identity &#8211; but when you look at the things they said in Uganda, and the past few year&#8217;s worth of warning signs I just have to quote that [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] put them to death for their sexual orientation or gender identity &#8211; but when you look at the things they said in Uganda, and the past few year&#8217;s worth of warning signs I just have to quote that [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Strange, True &#38; Religious : Conference in Uganda by 3 professional anti-gays from U.S. sets off strange feeding frenzy as pastors accuse rivals of gayness, miracle faking and human sacrifices</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/03/23/10014/comment-page-1#comment-40826</link>
		<dc:creator>Strange, True &#38; Religious : Conference in Uganda by 3 professional anti-gays from U.S. sets off strange feeding frenzy as pastors accuse rivals of gayness, miracle faking and human sacrifices</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 23:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mar 23: Schmierer’s &amp; Lively’s Uganda Talks Continue to Reverberate [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Aisha</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/03/23/10014/comment-page-1#comment-38406</link>
		<dc:creator>Aisha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 11:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gays are threat to our children, and they dont care, because they are devil worshippers and they want our/your children. Anal sex! Watch them closely those who are behind loaders(i mean the  ones  they shaft)they never look healthy.Oh God! The evil culture.

If the former Dictator Amin was still alive. Do you think these people will bring that culture in Uganda?
May God bless His soul.

&#039;For God and my country&#039;. 

 Aisha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gays are threat to our children, and they dont care, because they are devil worshippers and they want our/your children. Anal sex! Watch them closely those who are behind loaders(i mean the  ones  they shaft)they never look healthy.Oh God! The evil culture.</p>
<p>If the former Dictator Amin was still alive. Do you think these people will bring that culture in Uganda?<br />
May God bless His soul.</p>
<p>&#8216;For God and my country&#8217;. </p>
<p> Aisha</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Airhart</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/03/23/10014/comment-page-1#comment-37030</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Airhart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Follow the money.

Are Martin Ssempa and Stephen Langa again using U.S. PEPFAR (anti-AIDS) funding to finance antigay vigilante campaigns?

http://www.baywindows.com/index.php?ch=columnists&amp;sc=holding_the_center&amp;id=88480</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Follow the money.</p>
<p>Are Martin Ssempa and Stephen Langa again using U.S. PEPFAR (anti-AIDS) funding to finance antigay vigilante campaigns?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.baywindows.com/index.php?ch=columnists&#038;sc=holding_the_center&#038;id=88480" rel="nofollow">http://www.baywindows.com/index.php?ch=columnists&#038;sc=holding_the_center&#038;id=88480</a></p>
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		<title>By: Lynn David</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/03/23/10014/comment-page-1#comment-36999</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynn David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 06:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It didn&#039;t end in Uganda with Langa&#039;s Family Life Network March 15th meeting.    New Vision Online (which touts itself as Uganda&#039;s Leading Website) is carrying a story about &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newvision.co.ug/D/8/12/675619&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a young man who was recruiting schoolchildren into homosexuality&lt;/a&gt;.   He goes one to say he found god and quit the practice.  But he also says he was trained by &quot;Gay and Lesbian Coalition&quot; in Kenya ane was a gay and lesbian activist for five years and had operated under the umbrella group, Sexual Minorities Uganda (SMUG). 

George (Georgina) Oundo was one of those arrested on 10 Sept 2008 in an illegal breakin by the Ugandan police of their residence.

I don&#039;t know.... People get ahold of you sometimes and you have little more to say than what they tell you to say.  All because it might be the only way you can now make your way in the world.

I don&#039;t know....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It didn&#8217;t end in Uganda with Langa&#8217;s Family Life Network March 15th meeting.    New Vision Online (which touts itself as Uganda&#8217;s Leading Website) is carrying a story about <a href="http://www.newvision.co.ug/D/8/12/675619" rel="nofollow">a young man who was recruiting schoolchildren into homosexuality</a>.   He goes one to say he found god and quit the practice.  But he also says he was trained by &#8220;Gay and Lesbian Coalition&#8221; in Kenya ane was a gay and lesbian activist for five years and had operated under the umbrella group, Sexual Minorities Uganda (SMUG). </p>
<p>George (Georgina) Oundo was one of those arrested on 10 Sept 2008 in an illegal breakin by the Ugandan police of their residence.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know&#8230;. People get ahold of you sometimes and you have little more to say than what they tell you to say.  All because it might be the only way you can now make your way in the world.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Truth Wins Out - Exodus&#8217; Support Leads to Fresh Call for Uganda Antigay Violence</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/03/23/10014/comment-page-1#comment-36996</link>
		<dc:creator>Truth Wins Out - Exodus&#8217; Support Leads to Fresh Call for Uganda Antigay Violence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 04:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] conference, Uganda antigay activist Stephen Langa followed through last week on threats to launch an organized campaign of antigay violence across the African nation, according to Box Turtle [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jim Burroway</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/03/23/10014/comment-page-1#comment-36973</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Burroway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;There may well be biological correlates for homosexuality for many people. That isn’t controversial.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

But that point &lt;em&gt;is very controversial&lt;/em&gt; to the much of the ex-gay movement. In fact, for many of them -- including more specifically those at this conference -- it is heretical to acknowledge anything other than their favorite sexual abuse or smothering mother/distant father theories -- theories which have been discredited as sole causes, and in my readings have continued to remain unproven as significant contributing causes. 

While correlations exists, there still remains the question: Did Dad become distant from his son because the son did not like sports? Or did the son reject sports (and other masculine activities) because his father was distant? No one (to my knowledge so far, but I&#039;m still looking) has convincingly demonstrated the latter, but there is evidence to suggest the former.

But getting back to the problem with what&#039;s going on in Kampala, the people addressing these meetings there are not and have not described anything close to what the science really says, which suggests that there may be many difference causes for many different people, and that the causes may be difference combinations of environmental and biological factors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>There may well be biological correlates for homosexuality for many people. That isn’t controversial.</p></blockquote>
<p>But that point <em>is very controversial</em> to the much of the ex-gay movement. In fact, for many of them &#8212; including more specifically those at this conference &#8212; it is heretical to acknowledge anything other than their favorite sexual abuse or smothering mother/distant father theories &#8212; theories which have been discredited as sole causes, and in my readings have continued to remain unproven as significant contributing causes. </p>
<p>While correlations exists, there still remains the question: Did Dad become distant from his son because the son did not like sports? Or did the son reject sports (and other masculine activities) because his father was distant? No one (to my knowledge so far, but I&#8217;m still looking) has convincingly demonstrated the latter, but there is evidence to suggest the former.</p>
<p>But getting back to the problem with what&#8217;s going on in Kampala, the people addressing these meetings there are not and have not described anything close to what the science really says, which suggests that there may be many difference causes for many different people, and that the causes may be difference combinations of environmental and biological factors.</p>
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