Comments on: Quip of the Day http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/03/23/10021 News, analysis and fact-checking of anti-gay rhetoric Sun, 12 Feb 2012 12:29:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: jackobean http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/03/23/10021/comment-page-1#comment-37083 jackobean Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:37:49 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=10021#comment-37083 Oh, snap! is right! HaHa! Love it! Missionaries as well as the "position" deserves religious people! HaHa! Oh, snap! is right! HaHa! Love it! Missionaries as well as the “position” deserves religious people! HaHa!

]]> By: Ben in Oakland http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/03/23/10021/comment-page-1#comment-37027 Ben in Oakland Tue, 24 Mar 2009 17:07:57 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=10021#comment-37027 "“It is another typical secular assault by gays and lesbians on religion as a whole,”' This i love. What is a 'typical secular assault'? What makes it typical? Disagreeing with religious dominionists that they get a pass on being moral and kind human beings because they are acting out what they are pleased to call, and believe is, sincere religous belief? What about Gene Robinson? Is he assaulting religion in a typically secular way? Or does he get another equally ominous but meaningless adjective? Something about being a worm in the body of christ, I'm sure. There's an image for you. Typical secular assault is a masterpiece of propaganda speak. It means nothing, but it is has an ominous, threatening tone that resonates as a Sarah Palin brand of whine and politics. We're the REAL people, the ones that matter, the ones that are good. It has no substance, but it appeals to people who are not members of the reality based community, and answers their vague fears that Everything is Going to Hell in a Handbasket. More and more, it seems to me that these people present as great a threat to peace and progress as the religious and political dominionists. Actually, I just realized I said the same thing in a different form years ago: 90% of the world's problems are casued because 90% of the people 90% unconscious 90% of the time. ““It is another typical secular assault by gays and lesbians on religion as a whole,”’

This i love. What is a ‘typical secular assault’? What makes it typical? Disagreeing with religious dominionists that they get a pass on being moral and kind human beings because they are acting out what they are pleased to call, and believe is, sincere religous belief?

What about Gene Robinson? Is he assaulting religion in a typically secular way? Or does he get another equally ominous but meaningless adjective? Something about being a worm in the body of christ, I’m sure. There’s an image for you.

Typical secular assault is a masterpiece of propaganda speak. It means nothing, but it is has an ominous, threatening tone that resonates as a Sarah Palin brand of whine and politics. We’re the REAL people, the ones that matter, the ones that are good. It has no substance, but it appeals to people who are not members of the reality based community, and answers their vague fears that Everything is Going to Hell in a Handbasket.

More and more, it seems to me that these people present as great a threat to peace and progress as the religious and political dominionists.

Actually, I just realized I said the same thing in a different form years ago: 90% of the world’s problems are casued because 90% of the people 90% unconscious 90% of the time.

]]> By: Mad John http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/03/23/10021/comment-page-1#comment-37022 Mad John Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:52:10 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=10021#comment-37022 Ah, the favored tactic of the dishonest and intellectually lazy: Slur an entire group by the behavior of a few members. Let's elucidate the point you're trying to make, shall we? What overall percentage of gay people do you think attend circuit parties? What should that mean for the rights of gay people in general, and why? What percentage of young Mormons do you think have attended parties? What should that mean for the rights of Mormons in general, and why? Is there a principle you're trying to articulate here? Ah, the favored tactic of the dishonest and intellectually lazy: Slur an entire group by the behavior of a few members.

Let’s elucidate the point you’re trying to make, shall we?

What overall percentage of gay people do you think attend circuit parties? What should that mean for the rights of gay people in general, and why?

What percentage of young Mormons do you think have attended parties? What should that mean for the rights of Mormons in general, and why?

Is there a principle you’re trying to articulate here?

]]> By: cowboy http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/03/23/10021/comment-page-1#comment-37021 cowboy Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:43:12 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=10021#comment-37021 No, Mad John, I'm saying both groups have their respective "rituals" they observe: Mormons in their Temples and gays with their circuit parties devotees. But, I will admit, there isn't any concerted effort of gays/lesbians to get organized and spread their message like the Mormons do. No, Mad John, I’m saying both groups have their respective “rituals” they observe: Mormons in their Temples and gays with their circuit parties devotees.

But, I will admit, there isn’t any concerted effort of gays/lesbians to get organized and spread their message like the Mormons do.

]]> By: Mad John http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/03/23/10021/comment-page-1#comment-37018 Mad John Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:22:59 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=10021#comment-37018 Cowboy @ #3: You mean while some Mor(m)ons were off working to impose their toxic little superstition on more peaceful folks, some gays were off minding their own business? Sounds like business as usual to me. Cowboy @ #3: You mean while some Mor(m)ons were off working to impose their toxic little superstition on more peaceful folks, some gays were off minding their own business?

Sounds like business as usual to me.

]]> By: El Rose http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/03/23/10021/comment-page-1#comment-37016 El Rose Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:16:15 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=10021#comment-37016 Missionaries are called to preach the Gospel, which is conversion from sin. Gay activists preach another gospel: conversion to sin. Big difference. Missionaries are called to preach the Gospel, which is conversion from sin. Gay activists preach another gospel: conversion to sin. Big difference.

]]> By: Jason D http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/03/23/10021/comment-page-1#comment-37014 Jason D Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:07:37 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=10021#comment-37014 I've often thought the same thing. Missionaries, private religious schools, if anyone is trying to indoctrinate, it's not us. I’ve often thought the same thing. Missionaries, private religious schools, if anyone is trying to indoctrinate, it’s not us.

]]> By: cowboy http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/03/23/10021/comment-page-1#comment-37012 cowboy Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:38:22 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=10021#comment-37012 Also from the Salt Lake Tribune: The rabid anti-gay group <b>America Forever</b> tried to place an ad in both the SL Tribune and the Deseret News newspapers. They’re upset that gays and producers (Tom Hanks) of HBO’s <i>Big Love</i> are anti-religion because they portrayed some sacred Mormon Temple ritual. <blockquote> "It is another typical secular assault by gays and lesbians on religion as a whole," </blockquote> http://www.sltrib.com/columnists/ci_11967941 Also from the Salt Lake Tribune:

The rabid anti-gay group America Forever tried to place an ad in both the SL Tribune and the Deseret News newspapers. They’re upset that gays and producers (Tom Hanks) of HBO’s Big Love are anti-religion because they portrayed some sacred Mormon Temple ritual.

“It is another typical secular assault by gays and lesbians on religion as a whole,”

http://www.sltrib.com/columnists/ci_11967941

]]> By: Lynn David http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/03/23/10021/comment-page-1#comment-37008 Lynn David Tue, 24 Mar 2009 09:34:21 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=10021#comment-37008 Unfortunately, that's not what they are claiming in Uganda.... http://www.newvision.co.ug/D/8/12/675619 Unfortunately, that’s not what they are claiming in Uganda….

http://www.newvision.co.ug/D/8/12/675619

]]> By: Jim Burroway http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/03/23/10021/comment-page-1#comment-36974 Jim Burroway Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:52:06 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=10021#comment-36974 Oh, <em>snap!</em> Oh, snap!

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