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	<title>Comments on: Anti-Gays Scam Insurance Providers</title>
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		<title>By: Insurance Agent</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/03/27/10168/comment-page-1#comment-37314</link>
		<dc:creator>Insurance Agent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The school district may be self insured or Richard Fitch&#039;s theory may have some substance to it.  There are plenty of insurance companies owned by old farts with agendas, and word of mouth from one creepy school to another would spread quickly.

The black segregation scenario would not be covered as a direct result of the civil rights movement, but I&#039;m sure it was covered and paid out prior to the movement.  Now there is specific wording excluding civil rights breaches.

Most insurance companies would not exclude this as a frivilous lawsuit just to avoid getting sued by the school for doing so.  

But, when we allow a company to defend us, we give up the right to defend outselves.  This keeps the control in the hands of the company.  As an example, my company recently paid $50,000 on a 3mph no-injury claim to avoid a lawsuit.  If I had my say, I&#039;d have paid the claimant no more than $1,000 and would have spent any amount to defend because its the right thing to do.  As the defendent I feel pretty strongly about that - pretty emotional.  That&#039;s exactly what insurance companies seek to avoid.   If they go around defending what&#039;s right all the time, gone would be the frivilous lawsuit, but the companies would not enjoy their high profits.

So, if the school gives its right to defend to the insurance company, but then refuses to abide by the company&#039;s determination (let SAGE meet, for example) then they would have to be penalized in some way specified in the policy.  Some likely outcomes are the insurance company paying for the initial suit but not the appeal, or the company paying a percentage or paying what they would have paid had the insured listened to them, but the school picking up the rest.

So, I would guess that she&#039;s either not forthcoming about sharing the expense of defense, or the school district is self insured or Fitch is right.

One thing, companies do not take kindly to comments like the one made by Barbara Olsen, and I&#039;d be surprised if they had the same carrier next year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The school district may be self insured or Richard Fitch&#8217;s theory may have some substance to it.  There are plenty of insurance companies owned by old farts with agendas, and word of mouth from one creepy school to another would spread quickly.</p>
<p>The black segregation scenario would not be covered as a direct result of the civil rights movement, but I&#8217;m sure it was covered and paid out prior to the movement.  Now there is specific wording excluding civil rights breaches.</p>
<p>Most insurance companies would not exclude this as a frivilous lawsuit just to avoid getting sued by the school for doing so.  </p>
<p>But, when we allow a company to defend us, we give up the right to defend outselves.  This keeps the control in the hands of the company.  As an example, my company recently paid $50,000 on a 3mph no-injury claim to avoid a lawsuit.  If I had my say, I&#8217;d have paid the claimant no more than $1,000 and would have spent any amount to defend because its the right thing to do.  As the defendent I feel pretty strongly about that &#8211; pretty emotional.  That&#8217;s exactly what insurance companies seek to avoid.   If they go around defending what&#8217;s right all the time, gone would be the frivilous lawsuit, but the companies would not enjoy their high profits.</p>
<p>So, if the school gives its right to defend to the insurance company, but then refuses to abide by the company&#8217;s determination (let SAGE meet, for example) then they would have to be penalized in some way specified in the policy.  Some likely outcomes are the insurance company paying for the initial suit but not the appeal, or the company paying a percentage or paying what they would have paid had the insured listened to them, but the school picking up the rest.</p>
<p>So, I would guess that she&#8217;s either not forthcoming about sharing the expense of defense, or the school district is self insured or Fitch is right.</p>
<p>One thing, companies do not take kindly to comments like the one made by Barbara Olsen, and I&#8217;d be surprised if they had the same carrier next year.</p>
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		<title>By: Attmay</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/03/27/10168/comment-page-1#comment-37282</link>
		<dc:creator>Attmay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 16:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dessertboys,

I was homeschooled because the school refused to respond effectively to constant bullying, which was not even gay-related and went on for years. Had it not been for that option I would have had to drop out of high school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dessertboys,</p>
<p>I was homeschooled because the school refused to respond effectively to constant bullying, which was not even gay-related and went on for years. Had it not been for that option I would have had to drop out of high school.</p>
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		<title>By: Dessertboys</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/03/27/10168/comment-page-1#comment-37253</link>
		<dc:creator>Dessertboys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 18:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The local people NOW see what they have elected into office adn what their money is being spent on. It&#039;s high time they do away with the dead weight of bigotry and personal agendas and the thought that just because an individual has a degre does NOT mean they are worth a damn in practice. That&#039;s what the locals have on their hands now, a bunch of losers on their school board teaching their kids to be bigots, therefore rendering them useless in a diversified world. WOW, and we preach GO TO SCHOOL to our kids. I now understrand why people prefer to home school adn I thought it was for OTHER reasons. What a shame. I hope the insuurance company sticks it to that school board hard and strong. The school board then will see the letters KY can stand for more than an abbreviation for Kentucky. my heart goes out to the kids in this school, they have no leadership...no role models. Just freaks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The local people NOW see what they have elected into office adn what their money is being spent on. It&#8217;s high time they do away with the dead weight of bigotry and personal agendas and the thought that just because an individual has a degre does NOT mean they are worth a damn in practice. That&#8217;s what the locals have on their hands now, a bunch of losers on their school board teaching their kids to be bigots, therefore rendering them useless in a diversified world. WOW, and we preach GO TO SCHOOL to our kids. I now understrand why people prefer to home school adn I thought it was for OTHER reasons. What a shame. I hope the insuurance company sticks it to that school board hard and strong. The school board then will see the letters KY can stand for more than an abbreviation for Kentucky. my heart goes out to the kids in this school, they have no leadership&#8230;no role models. Just freaks.</p>
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		<title>By: David Roberts</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/03/27/10168/comment-page-1#comment-37241</link>
		<dc:creator>David Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 05:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any idea which insurance company they use?</description>
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		<title>By: Attmay</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/03/27/10168/comment-page-1#comment-37238</link>
		<dc:creator>Attmay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 02:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there any way that federal funding for these schools can be cut off?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there any way that federal funding for these schools can be cut off?</p>
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		<title>By: Richard W. Fitch</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/03/27/10168/comment-page-1#comment-37234</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard W. Fitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 00:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The other question that has to be asked is:  Are these kinds of insurance companies founded and funded by covert religious conservative groups for the very purpose of attempting to overturn discrimination laws?  That probably is NOT in the policy details -- still worth looking into I would think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The other question that has to be asked is:  Are these kinds of insurance companies founded and funded by covert religious conservative groups for the very purpose of attempting to overturn discrimination laws?  That probably is NOT in the policy details &#8212; still worth looking into I would think.</p>
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		<title>By: elaygee</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/03/27/10168/comment-page-1#comment-37229</link>
		<dc:creator>elaygee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 23:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that the insurance company can deny the claim as frivilous and stick the school board with the bill. Read the policy details and I bet there is a &quot;frivilous&quot; clause.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that the insurance company can deny the claim as frivilous and stick the school board with the bill. Read the policy details and I bet there is a &#8220;frivilous&#8221; clause.</p>
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