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	<title>Comments on: Wingers On Parade: Reactions To Iowa</title>
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		<title>By: PSUdain</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/04/03/10335/comment-page-1#comment-37738</link>
		<dc:creator>PSUdain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To that fellow with the fun sign about same-sex animals not mating, I would strongly recommend the book Biological Exuberance.  It is, as a friend of mine put it, &quot;A field guide to gay animal sex and couplings.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To that fellow with the fun sign about same-sex animals not mating, I would strongly recommend the book Biological Exuberance.  It is, as a friend of mine put it, &#8220;A field guide to gay animal sex and couplings.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/04/03/10335/comment-page-1#comment-37641</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 22:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*a &quot;sarc&quot; tag</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*a &#8220;sarc&#8221; tag</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/04/03/10335/comment-page-1#comment-37640</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 22:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Assuming Joel is the regular I believe him to be, then no, he&#039;s not serious.  In fact, such a comment would be wildly out of character except as sarcasm.  But without that context, yeah, it would be no immodest proposal to assume he was serious.

A swift  tag *almost* allows sarcasm to translate over the internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Assuming Joel is the regular I believe him to be, then no, he&#8217;s not serious.  In fact, such a comment would be wildly out of character except as sarcasm.  But without that context, yeah, it would be no immodest proposal to assume he was serious.</p>
<p>A swift  tag *almost* allows sarcasm to translate over the internet.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Rush</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Rush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 22:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was Joel really serious? Wow, I assumed he was doing parody. I should have known better.

The world of religious fanaticism seems unique in that parody never seems able to get beyond the excess of the real thing.  I remember the first time I stumbled onto the Trinity Broadcasting Network and saw the women with the enormous pink hair. I thought it must be a Saturday Night Live skit (maybe an updated version of their classic Church Lady). But no, it was really the wife of TBN&#039;s founder, and she always looks like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was Joel really serious? Wow, I assumed he was doing parody. I should have known better.</p>
<p>The world of religious fanaticism seems unique in that parody never seems able to get beyond the excess of the real thing.  I remember the first time I stumbled onto the Trinity Broadcasting Network and saw the women with the enormous pink hair. I thought it must be a Saturday Night Live skit (maybe an updated version of their classic Church Lady). But no, it was really the wife of TBN&#8217;s founder, and she always looks like that.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/04/03/10335/comment-page-1#comment-37631</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 19:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t forget kids, never leave home without your sarcasm tag. ^_^</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget kids, never leave home without your sarcasm tag. ^_^</p>
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		<title>By: Jason D</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/04/03/10335/comment-page-1#comment-37628</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 17:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Must you forget that all we need is the bible. Everything else is superfluous. Reason and worldy knowledge must not trump god’s standard and if they attempt to do so, it must be irrevocably shunned and denied. All for the glory of God.&quot;

Joel, please show me two things:

The part of the Constitution and or Bill of Rights that mentions the words God, Jesus, or The Bible.

The part of the Bill of Rights, Declaration of Independence, or Constitution that establishes this country as a Theocracy.

Because that&#039;s what you propose, &quot;All we need is the Bible&quot;.  I beg to differ.  Not in America, the land of the FREE and the home of the BRAVE.

Perhaps all YOU need is the Bible, and you&#039;re welcome to it, but this is a Constitutional Republic, NOT a Theocracy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Must you forget that all we need is the bible. Everything else is superfluous. Reason and worldy knowledge must not trump god’s standard and if they attempt to do so, it must be irrevocably shunned and denied. All for the glory of God.&#8221;</p>
<p>Joel, please show me two things:</p>
<p>The part of the Constitution and or Bill of Rights that mentions the words God, Jesus, or The Bible.</p>
<p>The part of the Bill of Rights, Declaration of Independence, or Constitution that establishes this country as a Theocracy.</p>
<p>Because that&#8217;s what you propose, &#8220;All we need is the Bible&#8221;.  I beg to differ.  Not in America, the land of the FREE and the home of the BRAVE.</p>
<p>Perhaps all YOU need is the Bible, and you&#8217;re welcome to it, but this is a Constitutional Republic, NOT a Theocracy.</p>
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		<title>By: David C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>David C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 06:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Must you forget that all we need is the bible. &lt;i&gt;---Joel&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

In the formulation of public policy, &lt;i&gt;almost the last thing we need is the Bible.&lt;/i&gt;  We &lt;i&gt;need&lt;/i&gt; to realize that if God really is Alpha and Omega, and the totality of the universe including all of us, we have a responsibility to use what we have learned over the millennia of our existence to get beyond our own fantasies, petty hatreds, and ignorance in order to truly love one another.  

What we &lt;i&gt;need&lt;/i&gt; is more reason, science, inquiry, and a healthy dose of skepticism.  Man&#039;s advance depends on cutting through the ignorance that underpins far too much of what is done in the name of religion irrespective of the god worshiped or the content of allegedly sacred texts.  The Iowa Supreme Court ruling is just such a reasoned act. 

Any God deserving glorification does not require or expect us to stay ignorant or refuse to use our minds for critical thought.  Reason and knowledge are the hallmarks of humanity.  I&#039;ll take that over blindly following a possibly unsound, dated, and often self-contradictory canon any day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Must you forget that all we need is the bible. <i>&#8212;Joel</i></p></blockquote>
<p>In the formulation of public policy, <i>almost the last thing we need is the Bible.</i>  We <i>need</i> to realize that if God really is Alpha and Omega, and the totality of the universe including all of us, we have a responsibility to use what we have learned over the millennia of our existence to get beyond our own fantasies, petty hatreds, and ignorance in order to truly love one another.  </p>
<p>What we <i>need</i> is more reason, science, inquiry, and a healthy dose of skepticism.  Man&#8217;s advance depends on cutting through the ignorance that underpins far too much of what is done in the name of religion irrespective of the god worshiped or the content of allegedly sacred texts.  The Iowa Supreme Court ruling is just such a reasoned act. </p>
<p>Any God deserving glorification does not require or expect us to stay ignorant or refuse to use our minds for critical thought.  Reason and knowledge are the hallmarks of humanity.  I&#8217;ll take that over blindly following a possibly unsound, dated, and often self-contradictory canon any day.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 03:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But same-sex animals do mate.

Perhaps it’s time we enact laws requiring anti-gays to be educated so that they can stop embarrassing themselves with ignorant statements.
&quot;

Must you forget that all we need is the bible. Everything else is superfluous.  Reason and worldy knowledge must not trump god&#039;s standard and if they attempt to do so, it must be irrevocably shunned and denied. All for the glory of God.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But same-sex animals do mate.</p>
<p>Perhaps it’s time we enact laws requiring anti-gays to be educated so that they can stop embarrassing themselves with ignorant statements.<br />
&#8221;</p>
<p>Must you forget that all we need is the bible. Everything else is superfluous.  Reason and worldy knowledge must not trump god&#8217;s standard and if they attempt to do so, it must be irrevocably shunned and denied. All for the glory of God.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/04/03/10335/comment-page-1#comment-37595</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 00:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But same-sex animals do mate.

Perhaps it&#039;s time we enact laws requiring anti-gays to be educated so that they can stop embarrassing themselves with ignorant statements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But same-sex animals do mate.</p>
<p>Perhaps it&#8217;s time we enact laws requiring anti-gays to be educated so that they can stop embarrassing themselves with ignorant statements.</p>
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		<title>By: Swampfox</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/04/03/10335/comment-page-1#comment-37565</link>
		<dc:creator>Swampfox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 01:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God grief, that is a current picture of Matt Barber?  He needs to learn some self-control when it comes to his calorie intake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God grief, that is a current picture of Matt Barber?  He needs to learn some self-control when it comes to his calorie intake.</p>
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