Comments on: Cal Thomas: Battle Is Lost

By: Lynn David

Lynn David — Wed, 08 Apr 2009 08:18:37 +0000

At least he’s pragmatic; would that all the rest would be so.

By: Ben in Oakland

Ben in Oakland — Tue, 07 Apr 2009 21:33:13 +0000

Davcid: that is what I was trying to say. thank you for making it clear.

By: David C.

David C. — Tue, 07 Apr 2009 20:55:19 +0000

He did such a good job of stating the conditions, why the hell couldn’t he have stated the logical conclusion????
—Richard W. Fitch

Perhaps because by doing so, he would have provided all that was needed to complete refutation of many if not all common arguments against same-sex marriage, and that attribution of moral decline to the extension of full civil protections to gay people was fallacious from the beginning.

By: Richard W. Fitch

Richard W. Fitch — Tue, 07 Apr 2009 20:17:26 +0000

I only read Cal Thomas’ column AFTER I’ve taken my blood pressure medicine. He is one of the most smug, arrogant and condescending people in print. He did such a good job of stating the conditions, why the hell couldn’t he have stated the logical conclusion????

By: Ben in Oakland

Ben in Oakland — Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:15:39 +0000

brilliant, pender. send that to Mr. thomas

By: Pender

Pender — Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:11:34 +0000

What’s hilarious to me is that he holds up Harold Hill from the Music Man as a model citizen for calling out corruption and degradation — when Hill was basically a scam artist trading on the town’s irrational hysteria to take advantage of them.

What an unintentionally perfect summary of the professional anti-gay organizations of America.

By: Alex

Alex — Tue, 07 Apr 2009 18:47:12 +0000

Did anyone else find it ironic that an anti-gay columnist compared the situation in Iowa to a musical?

By: Rick R. Reed

Rick R. Reed — Tue, 07 Apr 2009 18:42:25 +0000

However couched, it’s still nice to see that the more common sense marriage “problem” to work on is not keeping apart two people who love one another, but helping those who have already made the commitment sustain it.

By: David Phillips

David Phillips — Tue, 07 Apr 2009 18:20:47 +0000

All of that pissing and moaning, and he doesn’t have the courtesy to spontaneously combust for a finale??!! Glad to see one wingnut has come to his senses partly re sustaining married couples; now, if he’d just get over the hating.

By: Ben in Oakland

Ben in Oakland — Tue, 07 Apr 2009 18:18:16 +0000

“To those on the political and religious right who are intent on continuing the battle to preserve “traditional marriage” in a nation that is rapidly discarding its traditions, I would ask this question: What poses a greater threat to our remaining moral underpinnings? Is it two homosexuals living together, or is it the number of heterosexuals who are divorcing and the increasing number of children born to unmarried women, now at nearly 40 percent?”

Good for him. At least he was willing to tell the truth, and stop blaming gay people for what heterosexuals have been doing to The Holy Family.

His conclusion, however, was unfortunate. It is not that the political system has not been working, it was working all too well, fueled by hate and bigotry and religious intolerance, rather than knowledge, compassion, and progress.

Prop. 8 is the perfect example. It barely passed, and would never have passed has its supporters not resorted a campaign of lies and fear mongering, and had our side not run a campaign from the dark recesses of the closet.

What Mr. thomas is saying is that the tide is inexorably turning, and he doesn’t like it one bit. But barring a coup, maybe it’s time for good Christians to stop seeking the speck in their gay brothers’ and sisters’ eyes and start noticing the logs.

I find it interesting that while Mr. thomas is willing to accept heterosexual repsonsibility for the immorality of what they do to their families, somehow we immensely powerful and ever resourceful gay people have manged to pick on a morally exhausted nation like the bullies we clearly are, forcing them to abandon all principle or morality or something because They Just Couldn’t Take It Anymore.

Bad homos. Bad. Bad. Bad.

Or as I like to put it, heterosexuals behave badly, and gay people bear the blame or the punishment. but it’s a little twisted here, because heterosexists-rightwingers-homophobes-whathaveyou are acknowledging their responsibility. but they still want to blame gay people, because they are not behaving how they think they ought to, which is not about minding their own marriages, but about blaming gay people for every ill in society.