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	<title>Comments on: Delightfully Crazy Dingbat Insane Ookie Spookie Ad from National Organization for Marriage</title>
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		<title>By: Perry v. Schwarzenegger: day eight summary &#171; Queer Hatred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Perry v. Schwarzenegger: day eight summary &#171; Queer Hatred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 18:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Thompson had brought up after-the-vote events, video, and articles, this opened the door for the ookie-spookie “Gathering Storm” video created by National Organization for Marriage. While it is preposterous and ridiculous, it is a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Thompson had brought up after-the-vote events, video, and articles, this opened the door for the ookie-spookie “Gathering Storm” video created by National Organization for Marriage. While it is preposterous and ridiculous, it is a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Maajour</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maajour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 19:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t mean to be superficial, but, I notice that she has a wandering right eye. Could this be indicative of a neuron based problem affecting her cognition skills?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t mean to be superficial, but, I notice that she has a wandering right eye. Could this be indicative of a neuron based problem affecting her cognition skills?</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for sharing this.  I shared it with my pastor at stjamesucc-love.org and he replied:

&quot;Check out John 3:8...   think about it...   just 8 verses away from John 3:16...&quot;

&quot;The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes.  So is everyone who is born of the Spirit.&quot;
John 3:16 NKJV

Not too sure the makers of the video can call themselves &quot;Bible believing Christians&quot;. Maybe &quot;Bible redacting sissies&quot; would be better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing this.  I shared it with my pastor at stjamesucc-love.org and he replied:</p>
<p>&#8220;Check out John 3:8&#8230;   think about it&#8230;   just 8 verses away from John 3:16&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes.  So is everyone who is born of the Spirit.&#8221;<br />
John 3:16 NKJV</p>
<p>Not too sure the makers of the video can call themselves &#8220;Bible believing Christians&#8221;. Maybe &#8220;Bible redacting sissies&#8221; would be better.</p>
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		<title>By: cowboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>cowboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 16:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,

I have no way of knowing…and since you live in California…was there a direct connection of Mormons and their Church to the misleading Pro-Proposition 8 ad campaign; particularly the ones with references to the New Jersey Methodist Church and the Doctor who refused to treat a lesbian.  

In other words, can the Mormon Church say they had no responsibility for those misleading ads?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>I have no way of knowing…and since you live in California…was there a direct connection of Mormons and their Church to the misleading Pro-Proposition 8 ad campaign; particularly the ones with references to the New Jersey Methodist Church and the Doctor who refused to treat a lesbian.  </p>
<p>In other words, can the Mormon Church say they had no responsibility for those misleading ads?</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 16:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cowboy wrote: &quot;According to a very prominent Mormon who was once the Attorney General for Utah…all of the individual Mormon donors gave their money to Protectmarriage.com and NOT NOM.&quot;

Well, when a prominent Mormon says that the Mormons didn&#039;t have anything to do with funding the National Organization for Marriage (sic), that is good enough for me...to be absolutely convinced that they must have provided at least 90% of the funding.

With a little more experience, I am sure that most Americans will learn how to interpret statements from prominent Mormons and the Mormon Church.  Those of us in California have already figured it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cowboy wrote: &#8220;According to a very prominent Mormon who was once the Attorney General for Utah…all of the individual Mormon donors gave their money to Protectmarriage.com and NOT NOM.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, when a prominent Mormon says that the Mormons didn&#8217;t have anything to do with funding the National Organization for Marriage (sic), that is good enough for me&#8230;to be absolutely convinced that they must have provided at least 90% of the funding.</p>
<p>With a little more experience, I am sure that most Americans will learn how to interpret statements from prominent Mormons and the Mormon Church.  Those of us in California have already figured it out.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy (TRiG)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy (TRiG)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 14:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course schools teach morality. I was taught in school that dropping litter was wrong. I was taught that bullying is wrong. I was taught that racism was wrong.

And I wish I&#039;d been taught that homophobia was wrong.

TRiG.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course schools teach morality. I was taught in school that dropping litter was wrong. I was taught that bullying is wrong. I was taught that racism was wrong.</p>
<p>And I wish I&#8217;d been taught that homophobia was wrong.</p>
<p>TRiG.</p>
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		<title>By: cowboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>cowboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 06:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Over at HCR’s website there is a video clip of a debate with Ms. Gallagher.   She defiantly claims the New Jersey Methodist church group was forced to give up their tax status because they wouldn’t give equal access to the pavilion the Church operated in a public space.   

She can’t see the discrimination.   She can’t see the discrimination when the California Doctor refused to treat a lesbian.   The censoring of what can be taught in a Massachusetts classroom is abject discrimination against gays and lesbians.

There are laws on the books in each of these States that ban discrimination.   Can she not see she is condoning discrimination of gays/lesbians? 

I hate to keep going to Bruce Bastian and his millions but he surely could use some of it to produce a video to denounce the topics in NOM’s commercial. 

Could we get those same Hollywood actors that made a spoof about the people for Proposition 8...(staring Jack Black as Jesus, if I remember right)...to do another commercial for us?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over at HCR’s website there is a video clip of a debate with Ms. Gallagher.   She defiantly claims the New Jersey Methodist church group was forced to give up their tax status because they wouldn’t give equal access to the pavilion the Church operated in a public space.   </p>
<p>She can’t see the discrimination.   She can’t see the discrimination when the California Doctor refused to treat a lesbian.   The censoring of what can be taught in a Massachusetts classroom is abject discrimination against gays and lesbians.</p>
<p>There are laws on the books in each of these States that ban discrimination.   Can she not see she is condoning discrimination of gays/lesbians? </p>
<p>I hate to keep going to Bruce Bastian and his millions but he surely could use some of it to produce a video to denounce the topics in NOM’s commercial. </p>
<p>Could we get those same Hollywood actors that made a spoof about the people for Proposition 8&#8230;(staring Jack Black as Jesus, if I remember right)&#8230;to do another commercial for us?</p>
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		<title>By: paul j stein</title>
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		<dc:creator>paul j stein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 05:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe they need to re-learn the lessons of ANITA BRYANT. Hit the CHURCHES in the collection plate. Tax the churches if they get political. She has had a divorce, two bankruptcies and now thinks she has a more live and let live attitude. Wonder if the bankruptcies had anything to do with it? Not to show my age...BUT if the current generation fails to get active in fighting this intolerant attitude they can kiss ANY hope of better access to civil rights goodbye. FOREVER!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe they need to re-learn the lessons of ANITA BRYANT. Hit the CHURCHES in the collection plate. Tax the churches if they get political. She has had a divorce, two bankruptcies and now thinks she has a more live and let live attitude. Wonder if the bankruptcies had anything to do with it? Not to show my age&#8230;BUT if the current generation fails to get active in fighting this intolerant attitude they can kiss ANY hope of better access to civil rights goodbye. FOREVER!</p>
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		<title>By: Jason D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 03:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eddie89, even if this profession was the only one you found appealing, exciting, rewarding, and spiritually fullfilling? Even if you had spent years training for this profession and you felt your work was respected, appreciated, and ultimately helped people out?

Really, you&#039;d give that all up for something as trivial as ramen?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eddie89, even if this profession was the only one you found appealing, exciting, rewarding, and spiritually fullfilling? Even if you had spent years training for this profession and you felt your work was respected, appreciated, and ultimately helped people out?</p>
<p>Really, you&#8217;d give that all up for something as trivial as ramen?</p>
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		<title>By: Eddie89</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eddie89</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 03:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I was forced to eat ramen every night because of my profession, I would find a new profession.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I was forced to eat ramen every night because of my profession, I would find a new profession.</p>
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