<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: ACLU: Tenn Schools Illegally Blocking Access To LGBT Websites, Allows Ex-Gay Sites</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/04/15/10694/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/04/15/10694</link>
	<description>News, analysis and fact-checking of anti-gay rhetoric</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Wed, 22 May 2013 00:59:53 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: cowboy</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/04/15/10694/comment-page-1#comment-40723</link>
		<dc:creator>cowboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 15:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=10694#comment-40723</guid>
		<description>Developer,

I can empathize with the white-list idea.  But, we must have the pro-gay groups available on that white list.  The anti-gay factions have too much influence on the public school system.   Here where I went to school we couldn’t even mention the word homosexual.  The anti-gay forces have had far too much control over what can be accessed on the topic in our schools.  

And, I have wonder who gets to select what gets on this white list.   All too often the school board is made up of religious zealots bent on foisting lies and ignorance about homosexuality.  

In spite of all the bad we find on the internet, there needs to be a vehicle to get the good information and the truth to those who are homosexuals.  I tend to favor a unregulated (unfiltered) access because I think we gain far more with having &lt;b&gt;all&lt;/b&gt; the information available.   I think most young people can determine the truth and the good from the bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Developer,</p>
<p>I can empathize with the white-list idea.  But, we must have the pro-gay groups available on that white list.  The anti-gay factions have too much influence on the public school system.   Here where I went to school we couldn’t even mention the word homosexual.  The anti-gay forces have had far too much control over what can be accessed on the topic in our schools.  </p>
<p>And, I have wonder who gets to select what gets on this white list.   All too often the school board is made up of religious zealots bent on foisting lies and ignorance about homosexuality.  </p>
<p>In spite of all the bad we find on the internet, there needs to be a vehicle to get the good information and the truth to those who are homosexuals.  I tend to favor a unregulated (unfiltered) access because I think we gain far more with having <b>all</b> the information available.   I think most young people can determine the truth and the good from the bad.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Filter Developer</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/04/15/10694/comment-page-1#comment-40722</link>
		<dc:creator>Filter Developer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 15:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=10694#comment-40722</guid>
		<description>If you would like the perspective of a developer of a filtering product, who if given the chance to do it over again, here goes...

Having an intimate knowledge of the Internet, I recognize that there is exponentially more harmful content than educationally beneficial content available on the Internet. I now realize that trying to block out the harmful content while still allowing access to the beneficial content is a completely foolhardy goal that simply cannot be accomplished. A considerably more realizable goal would be to identify quality, relevant educational material available on the Internet and provide access to that using a white-list at the exclusion of everything else. This is exactly the approach schools take when choosing textbooks and I believe the same approach would work well with the Internet. I should point out that this is the polar opposite of the message I was preaching several years ago, but having spent 11 years playing Don Quixote, I have finally come to this new conclusion.

I know a lot of people would be outraged at my opinion, but I have seen more than anyone&#039;s fair share of the garbage available on the Internet. By virtue of being a developer of an Internet filtering product, I have acquired an intimate knowledge of things I wish I had never seen or heard of. I thought by developing a filtering product I would somehow be protecting others from this stuff, but after 11 years of watching how the peddlers of the filth sneak and weasel their way past the filters, I now realize I have spent countless thousands of hours trying to stop a giant snowball from rolling down a very steep hill.

I am not suggesting that the material referenced in the ACLU letter should or should not be allowed, I am simply saying the schools shouldn&#039;t be obligated to provide access to anything not specifically related to the education they should be providing our children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you would like the perspective of a developer of a filtering product, who if given the chance to do it over again, here goes&#8230;</p>
<p>Having an intimate knowledge of the Internet, I recognize that there is exponentially more harmful content than educationally beneficial content available on the Internet. I now realize that trying to block out the harmful content while still allowing access to the beneficial content is a completely foolhardy goal that simply cannot be accomplished. A considerably more realizable goal would be to identify quality, relevant educational material available on the Internet and provide access to that using a white-list at the exclusion of everything else. This is exactly the approach schools take when choosing textbooks and I believe the same approach would work well with the Internet. I should point out that this is the polar opposite of the message I was preaching several years ago, but having spent 11 years playing Don Quixote, I have finally come to this new conclusion.</p>
<p>I know a lot of people would be outraged at my opinion, but I have seen more than anyone&#8217;s fair share of the garbage available on the Internet. By virtue of being a developer of an Internet filtering product, I have acquired an intimate knowledge of things I wish I had never seen or heard of. I thought by developing a filtering product I would somehow be protecting others from this stuff, but after 11 years of watching how the peddlers of the filth sneak and weasel their way past the filters, I now realize I have spent countless thousands of hours trying to stop a giant snowball from rolling down a very steep hill.</p>
<p>I am not suggesting that the material referenced in the ACLU letter should or should not be allowed, I am simply saying the schools shouldn&#8217;t be obligated to provide access to anything not specifically related to the education they should be providing our children.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Christopher Waldrop</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/04/15/10694/comment-page-1#comment-38772</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Waldrop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 14:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=10694#comment-38772</guid>
		<description>Some people have said that it should be left up to the parents to decide what their kids are told which sounds fine, but has a couple of problems. The first is, they can&#039;t really block any site that has any mention of LGBT issues. If they did they&#039;d have to block just about everything, including a lot of newspapers. As far as I know the filter programs aren&#039;t specific enough that they can block access to specific articles within a site.

The other problem is that kids, particularly LGBT kids, can&#039;t always go to their parents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some people have said that it should be left up to the parents to decide what their kids are told which sounds fine, but has a couple of problems. The first is, they can&#8217;t really block any site that has any mention of LGBT issues. If they did they&#8217;d have to block just about everything, including a lot of newspapers. As far as I know the filter programs aren&#8217;t specific enough that they can block access to specific articles within a site.</p>
<p>The other problem is that kids, particularly LGBT kids, can&#8217;t always go to their parents.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: andrea d</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/04/15/10694/comment-page-1#comment-38419</link>
		<dc:creator>andrea d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 13:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=10694#comment-38419</guid>
		<description>You know, if they don&#039;t want kids to have access to the LGBT info then they need to block the the anti-LGBT sites too.  Of course you&#039;d hear a rousing chorus of Christian groups say they&#039;re being persecuted for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, if they don&#8217;t want kids to have access to the LGBT info then they need to block the the anti-LGBT sites too.  Of course you&#8217;d hear a rousing chorus of Christian groups say they&#8217;re being persecuted for it.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Christopher™</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/04/15/10694/comment-page-1#comment-38369</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher™</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 23:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=10694#comment-38369</guid>
		<description>Thanks, Jim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Jim.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Jim Burroway</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/04/15/10694/comment-page-1#comment-38362</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Burroway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 21:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=10694#comment-38362</guid>
		<description>Christopher,

According to the ACLU, the default settings are done by ENA out of the box.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christopher,</p>
<p>According to the ACLU, the default settings are done by ENA out of the box.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/04/15/10694/comment-page-1#comment-38355</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 19:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=10694#comment-38355</guid>
		<description>From ENA&#039;s website:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Examples of a few of ENA&#039;s filter categories are Hate/Discrimination, Gambling, Pornography, Adults Only, Suicide/Murder and School Cheating Pages.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It would be interesting to know whether the SPLC&#039;s anti-gay hate sites are blocked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From ENA&#8217;s website:</p>
<blockquote><p>Examples of a few of ENA&#8217;s filter categories are Hate/Discrimination, Gambling, Pornography, Adults Only, Suicide/Murder and School Cheating Pages.</p></blockquote>
<p>It would be interesting to know whether the SPLC&#8217;s anti-gay hate sites are blocked.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Christopher™</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/04/15/10694/comment-page-1#comment-38352</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher™</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 19:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=10694#comment-38352</guid>
		<description>I did a little digging and found out a few interesting tidbits.

CEO, David M. Pierce, was a political contributor to TN senator Lamar Alexander.  Doesn&#039;t say much other than he leans Republican, but it&#039;s interesting.

And I found this 2004 quote at TMCnet.com, in reference to ENA&#039;s products:

&quot;ENA is also using DataReactor to filter specific types of content delivered to schools, in order to comply with state laws. The software offers customizable settings to ensure that only appropriate content can be accessed and delivered. Anticipating the growing needs of its customers, ENA plans to expand the use of DataReactor and deploy an enterprise content delivery network (eCDN) in the near future.&quot;

It would be interesting to learn if the default settings are done by ENA out of the box, or whether the school districts in question set them up as defaults themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did a little digging and found out a few interesting tidbits.</p>
<p>CEO, David M. Pierce, was a political contributor to TN senator Lamar Alexander.  Doesn&#8217;t say much other than he leans Republican, but it&#8217;s interesting.</p>
<p>And I found this 2004 quote at TMCnet.com, in reference to ENA&#8217;s products:</p>
<p>&#8220;ENA is also using DataReactor to filter specific types of content delivered to schools, in order to comply with state laws. The software offers customizable settings to ensure that only appropriate content can be accessed and delivered. Anticipating the growing needs of its customers, ENA plans to expand the use of DataReactor and deploy an enterprise content delivery network (eCDN) in the near future.&#8221;</p>
<p>It would be interesting to learn if the default settings are done by ENA out of the box, or whether the school districts in question set them up as defaults themselves.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Truth Wins Out - &#8216;True Tolerance&#8217;? Tennessee Students &#8216;Protected&#8217; from Gay Health, Science, Education Sites</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/04/15/10694/comment-page-1#comment-38348</link>
		<dc:creator>Truth Wins Out - &#8216;True Tolerance&#8217;? Tennessee Students &#8216;Protected&#8217; from Gay Health, Science, Education Sites</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 18:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=10694#comment-38348</guid>
		<description>[...] Box Turtle Bulletin reports: The ACLU is giving the districts until April 29 to come up with a plan to provide access to LGBT sites or any other category that blocks non-sexual websites advocating the fair treatment of LGBT people by the beginning of the 2009-2010 school year. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Box Turtle Bulletin reports: The ACLU is giving the districts until April 29 to come up with a plan to provide access to LGBT sites or any other category that blocks non-sexual websites advocating the fair treatment of LGBT people by the beginning of the 2009-2010 school year. [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
