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	<title>Comments on: Obama&#8217;s First 6.8%</title>
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		<title>By: Ephilei</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ephilei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 20:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed. And it&#039;s not as if Obama has been playing golf for three months. Honestly, the economy is a bigger priority than LGBT issues. What good protection from job discrimination if no place is hiring? Let&#039;s keeping waiting to see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed. And it&#8217;s not as if Obama has been playing golf for three months. Honestly, the economy is a bigger priority than LGBT issues. What good protection from job discrimination if no place is hiring? Let&#8217;s keeping waiting to see.</p>
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		<title>By: staci</title>
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		<dc:creator>staci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Repealing DOMA would be such a blessing to me and my partner since I am a Federal employee living overseas.  Even though my partner is American, she has no rights or privileges that the straight married couples have with their &quot;authorized&quot; spouses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Repealing DOMA would be such a blessing to me and my partner since I am a Federal employee living overseas.  Even though my partner is American, she has no rights or privileges that the straight married couples have with their &#8220;authorized&#8221; spouses.</p>
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		<title>By: David C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>David C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 22:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Right now I don’t trust any of them on this and am concerned they are going to punt.&lt;/i&gt;---John&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes, John, you are right, ENDA would have a greater effect, and the Armed Services are big employers.

Nevertheless, H.R. 1913 has passed the House.  And yes, we&#039;re not done with this yet, but I&#039;m hopeful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Right now I don’t trust any of them on this and am concerned they are going to punt.&#8212;John</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, John, you are right, ENDA would have a greater effect, and the Armed Services are big employers.</p>
<p>Nevertheless, H.R. 1913 has passed the House.  And yes, we&#8217;re not done with this yet, but I&#8217;m hopeful.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;As I remarked elsewhere, the passage of the hate crimes bill might actually accelerate the timetable for repeal of DOMA and DADT. I don’t think people should minimize the importance of this legislation to the gay-rights movement.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Perhaps.  I personally think that ENDA would have more impact in that regard.  Eh, we shall see but avoiding even a vote on DADT and DOMA would not go over well.  Right now I don&#039;t trust any of them on this and am concerned they are going to punt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>As I remarked elsewhere, the passage of the hate crimes bill might actually accelerate the timetable for repeal of DOMA and DADT. I don’t think people should minimize the importance of this legislation to the gay-rights movement.</p></blockquote>
<p>Perhaps.  I personally think that ENDA would have more impact in that regard.  Eh, we shall see but avoiding even a vote on DADT and DOMA would not go over well.  Right now I don&#8217;t trust any of them on this and am concerned they are going to punt.</p>
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		<title>By: David C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>David C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I made the call to support H.R. 1913 yesterday before debate began.  

As I remarked &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/01/24/8308#comment-31486&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;elsewhere&lt;/a&gt;, the passage of the hate crimes bill might actually accelerate the timetable for repeal of DOMA and DADT.  I don&#039;t think people should minimize the importance of this legislation to the gay-rights movement.

Like all interest groups, we would like our legislative agenda to be advanced without delay.  The reality is different from those expectations, but that does not mean we should abandon support for those leaders with at least the fortitude to acknowledge our plight and call for redress.  We must continue to press for change though, because that is the only way things &lt;i&gt;will&lt;/i&gt; change.

The debate surrounding gay rights is starting to turn more on the question of &lt;b&gt;civil rights&lt;/b&gt;.  This is an important sea-change, and one we should continue to reenforce by framing our arguments for &lt;i&gt;gay rights&lt;/i&gt; in terms of &lt;i&gt;civil rights.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I made the call to support H.R. 1913 yesterday before debate began.  </p>
<p>As I remarked <a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/01/24/8308#comment-31486" rel="nofollow" class="articleLink">elsewhere</a>, the passage of the hate crimes bill might actually accelerate the timetable for repeal of DOMA and DADT.  I don&#8217;t think people should minimize the importance of this legislation to the gay-rights movement.</p>
<p>Like all interest groups, we would like our legislative agenda to be advanced without delay.  The reality is different from those expectations, but that does not mean we should abandon support for those leaders with at least the fortitude to acknowledge our plight and call for redress.  We must continue to press for change though, because that is the only way things <i>will</i> change.</p>
<p>The debate surrounding gay rights is starting to turn more on the question of <b>civil rights</b>.  This is an important sea-change, and one we should continue to reenforce by framing our arguments for <i>gay rights</i> in terms of <i>civil rights.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Pender</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pender</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only an engineer would see eight checkboxes and conclude that each one is worth 12.5% of his promises to the gay community. I&#039;d gladly give up &lt;i&gt;fifty&lt;/i&gt; &quot;Microbicides Development Acts&quot; if it meant one repeal of DOMA.

Here, I&#039;ll call his strategy right now. He&#039;ll do nothing for us until maybe 2011. Then he&#039;ll choose something with overwhelming national support like repealing DADT. Somewhere between 70 and 80% of the country supports repeal. Find me &lt;i&gt;one other longstanding issue&lt;/i&gt; that has 70-80% popular support in this country which the national government hasn&#039;t tackled. Finally following through with it won&#039;t be doing us a favor. But that&#039;ll be the plan, and then he&#039;ll turn to us expectantly, collection box in hands.

Screw it; no President gets my vote ever again if he doesn&#039;t support my full equality under the law. I&#039;m sick of getting the GOP position plus friendly rhetoric in exchange for my votes and donations. It&#039;s never happening again. Unless we see some change we can believe in, all of my money and my only vote will go to local and state politicians who are actually willing to &lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt; something for us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only an engineer would see eight checkboxes and conclude that each one is worth 12.5% of his promises to the gay community. I&#8217;d gladly give up <i>fifty</i> &#8220;Microbicides Development Acts&#8221; if it meant one repeal of DOMA.</p>
<p>Here, I&#8217;ll call his strategy right now. He&#8217;ll do nothing for us until maybe 2011. Then he&#8217;ll choose something with overwhelming national support like repealing DADT. Somewhere between 70 and 80% of the country supports repeal. Find me <i>one other longstanding issue</i> that has 70-80% popular support in this country which the national government hasn&#8217;t tackled. Finally following through with it won&#8217;t be doing us a favor. But that&#8217;ll be the plan, and then he&#8217;ll turn to us expectantly, collection box in hands.</p>
<p>Screw it; no President gets my vote ever again if he doesn&#8217;t support my full equality under the law. I&#8217;m sick of getting the GOP position plus friendly rhetoric in exchange for my votes and donations. It&#8217;s never happening again. Unless we see some change we can believe in, all of my money and my only vote will go to local and state politicians who are actually willing to <i>do</i> something for us.</p>
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