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	<title>Comments on: Maggie Gallagher Gives False Information About El Coyote Owner</title>
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		<title>By: Ben in Oakland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben in Oakland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 18:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regan-- give him the links to the lengthy discussions on el coyote at this very blog.

Then ignore him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regan&#8211; give him the links to the lengthy discussions on el coyote at this very blog.</p>
<p>Then ignore him.</p>
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		<title>By: Regan DuCasse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Regan DuCasse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 17:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have called back a few times, and tried to make contact, but Marj was pretty much not available.

  Business fell off for a bit, and there hasn&#039;t been a measurable way to blame a boycott so much as the overall downturn of less people eating out for any troubles the El Coyote might be undergoing.
  The business hasn&#039;t closed, nor have any lay offs been announced. I&#039;m sure if any could be directly attributed to a gay walkout, we&#039;d hear about it.

   But Marj should have understood the lesson in betraying a customer base you depend on so much.
 
   BTW, a man named anderson659 over at TownHall is on the march and has taken a strange obsession to me. This is fairly new and I&#039;m not sure about what to do, but we&#039;ll see.

 It&#039;s new to me to be accused of something and claims made as if I&#039;ve committed a crime from a website blog thread.

 He&#039;s convinced I harassed a waitress and got her fired because of Prop. 8 simply because I mentioned attending the meeting and in the rally that passed by the restaurant. And he seems to think I should pay for it, or at least he won&#039;t let it go.

   What seems to be happening is if you&#039;re honest about something it&#039;s twisted into a Christian persecution mob. Indeed, he&#039;s convinced of anti Christian persecution from more than a few people.

  Anyway, this thing is virulent like the Ms. CA situation is.
 
  I&#039;m glad you caught what Gallagher said Tim. I was wondering if someone would report on it on our end.

We were there at El Coyote, but people like Gallagher and anderson659 don&#039;t want to believe what we have to say about what really happened.

 If anyone has any advice about what to do with this guy, it would be welcome.
As I said, this is a new one on me and I&#039;m not sure how to respond.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have called back a few times, and tried to make contact, but Marj was pretty much not available.</p>
<p>  Business fell off for a bit, and there hasn&#8217;t been a measurable way to blame a boycott so much as the overall downturn of less people eating out for any troubles the El Coyote might be undergoing.<br />
  The business hasn&#8217;t closed, nor have any lay offs been announced. I&#8217;m sure if any could be directly attributed to a gay walkout, we&#8217;d hear about it.</p>
<p>   But Marj should have understood the lesson in betraying a customer base you depend on so much.</p>
<p>   BTW, a man named anderson659 over at TownHall is on the march and has taken a strange obsession to me. This is fairly new and I&#8217;m not sure about what to do, but we&#8217;ll see.</p>
<p> It&#8217;s new to me to be accused of something and claims made as if I&#8217;ve committed a crime from a website blog thread.</p>
<p> He&#8217;s convinced I harassed a waitress and got her fired because of Prop. 8 simply because I mentioned attending the meeting and in the rally that passed by the restaurant. And he seems to think I should pay for it, or at least he won&#8217;t let it go.</p>
<p>   What seems to be happening is if you&#8217;re honest about something it&#8217;s twisted into a Christian persecution mob. Indeed, he&#8217;s convinced of anti Christian persecution from more than a few people.</p>
<p>  Anyway, this thing is virulent like the Ms. CA situation is.</p>
<p>  I&#8217;m glad you caught what Gallagher said Tim. I was wondering if someone would report on it on our end.</p>
<p>We were there at El Coyote, but people like Gallagher and anderson659 don&#8217;t want to believe what we have to say about what really happened.</p>
<p> If anyone has any advice about what to do with this guy, it would be welcome.<br />
As I said, this is a new one on me and I&#8217;m not sure how to respond.</p>
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		<title>By: Buffy</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/05/04/11095/comment-page-1#comment-39945</link>
		<dc:creator>Buffy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 05:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maggie Gallagher is a professional propagandist.  She wouldn&#039;t know how to tell the truth if her life depended on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maggie Gallagher is a professional propagandist.  She wouldn&#8217;t know how to tell the truth if her life depended on it.</p>
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		<title>By: Tommy</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/05/04/11095/comment-page-1#comment-39929</link>
		<dc:creator>Tommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 01:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This semester of college I took my senior seminar on the topic of propaganda. We have to write a massive final paper that I&#039;m working on right now. I chose to write about NOM&#039;s propaganda campaign of the last two months. Poor Maggie Gallagher, I already have so much material to work with that I can&#039;t actually find room to discuss her blatant lies in that interview.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This semester of college I took my senior seminar on the topic of propaganda. We have to write a massive final paper that I&#8217;m working on right now. I chose to write about NOM&#8217;s propaganda campaign of the last two months. Poor Maggie Gallagher, I already have so much material to work with that I can&#8217;t actually find room to discuss her blatant lies in that interview.</p>
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		<title>By: BPL</title>
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		<dc:creator>BPL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 01:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I caught that, too -- &quot;waitress&quot; is quite a stretch, and Ms. Gallagher is probably fully aware that it&#039;s a stretch, yet chose that word for its effect, regardless of its accuracy.

Ms. Gallagher seems to rely on:
(1) anecdotes
(2) that aren&#039;t presented quite accurately; and are
(3) couched in an atmosphere of unnamed, diffuse, while very dark fears (&quot;a storm is coming&quot; and all that).

By contrast, we have truth and empiricism (e.g., the sky hasn&#039;t fallen in Massachusetts) on our side.  The only negative that has happened in places where SSM has become legal is basically that &quot;some people don&#039;t like the concept of it.&quot;

As Wanda Sykes said, if you don&#039;t like same-sex marriage, don&#039;t get married to someone of the same sex.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I caught that, too &#8212; &#8220;waitress&#8221; is quite a stretch, and Ms. Gallagher is probably fully aware that it&#8217;s a stretch, yet chose that word for its effect, regardless of its accuracy.</p>
<p>Ms. Gallagher seems to rely on:<br />
(1) anecdotes<br />
(2) that aren&#8217;t presented quite accurately; and are<br />
(3) couched in an atmosphere of unnamed, diffuse, while very dark fears (&#8220;a storm is coming&#8221; and all that).</p>
<p>By contrast, we have truth and empiricism (e.g., the sky hasn&#8217;t fallen in Massachusetts) on our side.  The only negative that has happened in places where SSM has become legal is basically that &#8220;some people don&#8217;t like the concept of it.&#8221;</p>
<p>As Wanda Sykes said, if you don&#8217;t like same-sex marriage, don&#8217;t get married to someone of the same sex.</p>
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		<title>By: RU486</title>
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		<dc:creator>RU486</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 23:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The best part of that show was seeing Stephen Baldwin with a pout on his fat face, complaining that he&#039;s being persecuted(!)  If only.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best part of that show was seeing Stephen Baldwin with a pout on his fat face, complaining that he&#8217;s being persecuted(!)  If only.</p>
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		<title>By: homer</title>
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		<dc:creator>homer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 23:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since when has Maggie Gallagher been interested in telling the truth?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since when has Maggie Gallagher been interested in telling the truth?</p>
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		<title>By: Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 23:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for bring that story up, I have wondered what has become of the El Coyote and Margie.  Do you have an update for us?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for bring that story up, I have wondered what has become of the El Coyote and Margie.  Do you have an update for us?</p>
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