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	<title>Comments on: Obama&#8217;s &#8220;Don&#8217;t Ask, Don&#8217;t Tell&#8221; On Marriage</title>
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		<title>By: ravenbiker</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/05/07/11211/comment-page-1#comment-41505</link>
		<dc:creator>ravenbiker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 18:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ditto Pro!  My friends were so into candidate Obama that I thought I was going to loose them as friends after I voted for McCain.  I knew it, I knew it, I knew it!  Obama is acting like a sissy towards our civil rights!  I&#039;ll remind my friends once again about their &quot;savior&quot; in less than 4 years!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ditto Pro!  My friends were so into candidate Obama that I thought I was going to loose them as friends after I voted for McCain.  I knew it, I knew it, I knew it!  Obama is acting like a sissy towards our civil rights!  I&#8217;ll remind my friends once again about their &#8220;savior&#8221; in less than 4 years!</p>
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		<title>By: Bruno</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/05/07/11211/comment-page-1#comment-40227</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 16:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep in mind that this issue has hit the Huff Post and CNN and is gaining some traction in the MSM.  Obama hates a controversy, I&#039;d look for him to at least address the LGBT community more directly real soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep in mind that this issue has hit the Huff Post and CNN and is gaining some traction in the MSM.  Obama hates a controversy, I&#8217;d look for him to at least address the LGBT community more directly real soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Darren</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/05/07/11211/comment-page-1#comment-40219</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 13:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*that should have read &quot;out-of-state same-sex MARRIAGES. . .&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*that should have read &#8220;out-of-state same-sex MARRIAGES. . .&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Darren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 13:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there&#039;s good reason not to get too excited about a repeal of DADT anytime soon.  I was reading this article in the Washington Post yesterday, regarding Obama&#039;s National Security Advisor, James L. Jones.  In the second page of the article, you&#039;ll read:

&quot;When Obama was under pressure to review the military&#039;s &quot;don&#039;t ask, don&#039;t tell&quot; policy on gay service members, Jones said he went &quot;to see him personally on it&quot; and advised him not to add another controversy to his already-full plate. The president, Jones said, took his advice.&quot;

So you&#039;re right to be sad and frustrated . . . it doesn&#039;t sound like we&#039;re gonna get any boldness anytime soon.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/06/AR2009050604134.html

Pomo,
While I don&#039;t think he&#039;s our &quot;savior&quot; by any stretch, I do think he&#039;s WAY better than the alternative would have been!  Just as a quick example, I&#039;m pretty sure that DC&#039;s recent city council measure to allow out-of-state same-sex measures would have been overturned by a President McCain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there&#8217;s good reason not to get too excited about a repeal of DADT anytime soon.  I was reading this article in the Washington Post yesterday, regarding Obama&#8217;s National Security Advisor, James L. Jones.  In the second page of the article, you&#8217;ll read:</p>
<p>&#8220;When Obama was under pressure to review the military&#8217;s &#8220;don&#8217;t ask, don&#8217;t tell&#8221; policy on gay service members, Jones said he went &#8220;to see him personally on it&#8221; and advised him not to add another controversy to his already-full plate. The president, Jones said, took his advice.&#8221;</p>
<p>So you&#8217;re right to be sad and frustrated . . . it doesn&#8217;t sound like we&#8217;re gonna get any boldness anytime soon.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/06/AR2009050604134.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/06/AR2009050604134.html</a></p>
<p>Pomo,<br />
While I don&#8217;t think he&#8217;s our &#8220;savior&#8221; by any stretch, I do think he&#8217;s WAY better than the alternative would have been!  Just as a quick example, I&#8217;m pretty sure that DC&#8217;s recent city council measure to allow out-of-state same-sex measures would have been overturned by a President McCain.</p>
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		<title>By: JJQR</title>
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		<dc:creator>JJQR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 06:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pomo : Though I voted for Obama, and I&#039;m still not unhappy with my choice, the way gays hailed Obama as a savior was downright embarrassing. All you have to do is go to various gay blogs, from last election day, and see. Some of them actually threw parties! One guy actually decided to show photos of his own crying face as election results came in. It was bizarre.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pomo : Though I voted for Obama, and I&#8217;m still not unhappy with my choice, the way gays hailed Obama as a savior was downright embarrassing. All you have to do is go to various gay blogs, from last election day, and see. Some of them actually threw parties! One guy actually decided to show photos of his own crying face as election results came in. It was bizarre.</p>
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		<title>By: lurker</title>
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		<dc:creator>lurker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 05:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama promised nothing on marriage We knew he had already compromised on that during the election. It gives him nothing to support it now, and really, doesn&#039;t help the cause all that much. Progressive states have to march into the fray (as they&#039;re doing), the feds can mop up the laggers later.

He did give us promises on DADT. And apparently he could stop the most egregious witch hunts administratively (which shouldn&#039;t be happening under DADT, seems that we&#039;re back to the &#039;50s). And, frankly, he doesn&#039;t have much to loose from addressing DADT - it does not have majority support in this country anymore, and with the lightning speed that gay rights are moving, in 2012 DADT should look like ancient history. I&#039;m giving him the benefit of the doubt now - after all, there&#039;s only so much oxygen in each day - but if he does not take on DADT in his first year he&#039;s gonna smell real bad to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama promised nothing on marriage We knew he had already compromised on that during the election. It gives him nothing to support it now, and really, doesn&#8217;t help the cause all that much. Progressive states have to march into the fray (as they&#8217;re doing), the feds can mop up the laggers later.</p>
<p>He did give us promises on DADT. And apparently he could stop the most egregious witch hunts administratively (which shouldn&#8217;t be happening under DADT, seems that we&#8217;re back to the &#8217;50s). And, frankly, he doesn&#8217;t have much to loose from addressing DADT &#8211; it does not have majority support in this country anymore, and with the lightning speed that gay rights are moving, in 2012 DADT should look like ancient history. I&#8217;m giving him the benefit of the doubt now &#8211; after all, there&#8217;s only so much oxygen in each day &#8211; but if he does not take on DADT in his first year he&#8217;s gonna smell real bad to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruno</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 02:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Timothy:  Well if we can keep scrutinizing Pelosi&#039;s no-show on marriage rights, San Francisco is the one place that that issue alone could get her voted out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Timothy:  Well if we can keep scrutinizing Pelosi&#8217;s no-show on marriage rights, San Francisco is the one place that that issue alone could get her voted out.</p>
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		<title>By: gar</title>
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		<dc:creator>gar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 21:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The timidity is of concern.  But since my partner has been out of work for 5 months now, the jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs agenda is not a bad one from my perspective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The timidity is of concern.  But since my partner has been out of work for 5 months now, the jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs agenda is not a bad one from my perspective.</p>
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		<title>By: GaySolomon</title>
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		<dc:creator>GaySolomon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 21:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Obama’s stance on equal marriage can only be described as insipid and pathetic. What an utter shame that Mr. Obama was one of the best of the bunch.

LGBT Americans deserve much better than this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Obama’s stance on equal marriage can only be described as insipid and pathetic. What an utter shame that Mr. Obama was one of the best of the bunch.</p>
<p>LGBT Americans deserve much better than this.</p>
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		<title>By: Obama Not Exactly a &#8220;Fierce Advocate&#8221; for Gays &#171; Deanna&#8217;s Ramblings</title>
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		<dc:creator>Obama Not Exactly a &#8220;Fierce Advocate&#8221; for Gays &#171; Deanna&#8217;s Ramblings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 20:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Box Turtle Bulletin points out, Obama used his stance on repealing DOMA to differentiate himself from Hillary Clinton [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Box Turtle Bulletin points out, Obama used his stance on repealing DOMA to differentiate himself from Hillary Clinton [...]</p>
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