Comments on: Miss California Executive Director Quits

By: Tiff

Tiff — Fri, 15 May 2009 04:35:04 +0000

“yeah, a slur against an overly-made up homophobe. Eeek”

I believe the issue is that drag queen is being used as a slur. It’s the same reason it’s inappropriate to say something like “That movie was so gay!”

I echo swampfox’s statement: “Can’t we refrain from such remarks.”

By: cd

cd — Thu, 14 May 2009 19:18:22 +0000

I think Trump is doing the socially and politically smart thing, too. Ms. Prejean is going supernova- selfdestructing in the public eye- and he’d be a fool to make himself a party to it. He’s letting her disqualify and degrade herself in the public eye, not giving her and her supporters a target to blame and attack.

Ms. Moakler…it seems to me this is a final straw kind of thing internal to the beauty pageant biz and culture. It’s not that the pageants are passé in the American public mind, yet. But there is a change of some kind in American culture, such that pageant contestants are no longer given quite the iconic status they once were. The public is no longer so willfully overlooking the messy and ugly sides of what goes on.

By: Ephilei

Ephilei — Thu, 14 May 2009 15:31:17 +0000

Desiree makes a very good point. Injuring Carrie would have made her talking points stronger (even for being less correct).

Didn’t Moakler also post nude, violating her contract? If the org was playing by their own rules, they’d have fired both of them.

By: Désirée

Désirée — Thu, 14 May 2009 06:15:25 +0000

Perhaps the Donald is actually being quite shrewd here. Had he fired her, Carrie and her new handlers could claim martyrdom at the hands of the gay maffia or some such distortion of the facts. However, by basically forcing her to honor her pageant duties, he takes away her ability to play the martyr. Now, if she continues to act as she has been – ignoring pageant officials, joining political causes, etc, he can fire her and not look bad doing so and she can’t claim it was because of the evil gays or that she is being punished. It will be because she isn’t doing her job. Donald is a shrewd business man to be sure and I’m sure he thought this through. Carrie not getting canned now is actually better for everyone *except* Carrie and the anti-equality crowd that wanted to use her.

By: David C.

David C. — Thu, 14 May 2009 04:24:55 +0000

I suspect this is the classic clash of wills between an owner/boss and a subordinate. The principled Moakler Vs. the bottom-line focused businessman Trump.

Been there, done that, got the coffee cup, and T-shirt.

By: Jason D

Jason D — Thu, 14 May 2009 03:20:40 +0000

yeah, a slur against an overly-made up homophobe. Eeek.

By: Swampfox

Swampfox — Thu, 14 May 2009 01:32:05 +0000

The caption is used as a slur. I rest my case.

By: Jason D

Jason D — Thu, 14 May 2009 01:10:37 +0000

swamp, if you know any drag queens, the idea with their makeup is loud, loud, loud. In many respects, drag artists are mocking the amount of forced beauty that straight men expect of real women.

Case in point: Carrie Prejean.

By: Swampfox

Swampfox — Thu, 14 May 2009 01:07:21 +0000

I will further remark that Moakler is very nice looking ………. and, Prejean is giving a plastic beauty contestant smile. Moakler did the honorable thing and resigned.

By: Swampfox

Swampfox — Thu, 14 May 2009 00:55:30 +0000

“Moakler is the one that doesn’t look like a drag queen” caption on the photograph.

Can’t we refrain from such remarks.