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	<title>Comments on: NH Anti-Gays Admit that &#8220;Religious Protections&#8221; are Redundant</title>
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		<title>By: cd</title>
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		<dc:creator>cd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 07:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t take Kris Mineau seriously.  And don&#039;t forget that almost all arguments the anti-gay side advances are purely instrumental: they take anything that works on the Undecided and its truth content is, er, secondary.

Their only true belief is that gay people and gay marriage just violate The Way Things Have To Be Because &lt;strike&gt;My Ego&lt;/strike&gt; God Said So.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t take Kris Mineau seriously.  And don&#8217;t forget that almost all arguments the anti-gay side advances are purely instrumental: they take anything that works on the Undecided and its truth content is, er, secondary.</p>
<p>Their only true belief is that gay people and gay marriage just violate The Way Things Have To Be Because <strike>My Ego</strike> God Said So.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard W. Fitch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard W. Fitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 05:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Every time the citizens are allowed to vote, even in California, citizens vote for marriage to mean the union between one man and one woman,&quot; said Kris Mineau, president of the Massachusetts Family Institute. A majority of the public recognizes &quot;that the primary role of marriage is children,&quot; he said. &quot;It takes a father and mother to create a child, and every child has an inalienable right to be raised by a father and mother.&quot;...................Mr. Mineau, please explain that to the hundreds of American heterosexual couples who CHOOSE not to have children. And while you are at it, why not invalidate those unions and the unions of those who are unable to bear children for whatever reason.   When will this &#039;Survival of the Species&#039; argument finally get a decent death??????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Every time the citizens are allowed to vote, even in California, citizens vote for marriage to mean the union between one man and one woman,&#8221; said Kris Mineau, president of the Massachusetts Family Institute. A majority of the public recognizes &#8220;that the primary role of marriage is children,&#8221; he said. &#8220;It takes a father and mother to create a child, and every child has an inalienable right to be raised by a father and mother.&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.Mr. Mineau, please explain that to the hundreds of American heterosexual couples who CHOOSE not to have children. And while you are at it, why not invalidate those unions and the unions of those who are unable to bear children for whatever reason.   When will this &#8216;Survival of the Species&#8217; argument finally get a decent death??????</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/05/15/11431/comment-page-1#comment-40758</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 22:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ephilei,

Sorry.  I forgot to link to the Boston Globe article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ephilei,</p>
<p>Sorry.  I forgot to link to the Boston Globe article.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruno</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 21:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which just proves that the ultimate goals of these far right organizations are to make our lives as miserable as possible and give us as little legal protection as possible, at no expense to their own legal protections.  Hideous, monstrous, self-centered, bigoted asses they all are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which just proves that the ultimate goals of these far right organizations are to make our lives as miserable as possible and give us as little legal protection as possible, at no expense to their own legal protections.  Hideous, monstrous, self-centered, bigoted asses they all are.</p>
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		<title>By: Ephilei</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ephilei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 20:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Timothy
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Timothy<br />
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/05/15/11431/comment-page-1#comment-40748</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 19:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In this case, redundant is good.

Good that it gives US more &quot;arrows&quot; to make our case.

Good that it helps disarm the concerns of religious fundamentalists that their church&#039;s rules will be infringed upon.

Good all around.

Perfect way to know where somebody you&#039;re talking to stands on the issue- start by asking them, &quot;Do you believe your town/state/country should be governed exclusively by the rules of your church and your religion?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this case, redundant is good.</p>
<p>Good that it gives US more &#8220;arrows&#8221; to make our case.</p>
<p>Good that it helps disarm the concerns of religious fundamentalists that their church&#8217;s rules will be infringed upon.</p>
<p>Good all around.</p>
<p>Perfect way to know where somebody you&#8217;re talking to stands on the issue- start by asking them, &#8220;Do you believe your town/state/country should be governed exclusively by the rules of your church and your religion?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Waldrop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Waldrop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 19:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the things that prevents those of us who are in favor of marriage equality from playing on a level field is that the opponents are willing to lie as long as it serves their purposes. 

Of course if opponents of marriage equality had to stick to the facts they wouldn&#039;t have an argument to make.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the things that prevents those of us who are in favor of marriage equality from playing on a level field is that the opponents are willing to lie as long as it serves their purposes. </p>
<p>Of course if opponents of marriage equality had to stick to the facts they wouldn&#8217;t have an argument to make.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben in Oakland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben in Oakland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 18:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sarcasm, irony, WTF-- all fail me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sarcasm, irony, WTF&#8211; all fail me.</p>
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