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	<title>Comments on: AZ Legislature Moves To Strip Domestic Partner Benefits</title>
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		<title>By: StraightGrandmother</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/06/06/11914/comment-page-1#comment-117742</link>
		<dc:creator>StraightGrandmother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2012 23:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m no expert, but it seems to me that this is another Romer case. I am very impatient for any of the various Civil Rights for Sexual Minorities cases to make it&#039;s way to the Supreme Court. 

My heart breaks for all of you who live your lives without full Equality to every other citizen. Even those states that have Civil Marriage for Sexual Minorities, our Federal Government does not recognize it. We all just have to keep on fighting the good fight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m no expert, but it seems to me that this is another Romer case. I am very impatient for any of the various Civil Rights for Sexual Minorities cases to make it&#8217;s way to the Supreme Court. </p>
<p>My heart breaks for all of you who live your lives without full Equality to every other citizen. Even those states that have Civil Marriage for Sexual Minorities, our Federal Government does not recognize it. We all just have to keep on fighting the good fight.</p>
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		<title>By: Eddie89</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eddie89</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 17:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For what it&#039;s worth, I contacted my State Senator (R) and both Representatives (R) and the Governor&#039;s office (R) and let them know that I am opposed to stripping these 750 state employees of their domestic partner health benefits, which would only save the state about $5 million dollars. How petty.

With every passing day, the New England area is looking more and more friendly.

Would I trade searingly hot summers and mild winters for mild summers (in comparison to Phoenix) and freezing winters? If it means equality under the law?

You betcha!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For what it&#8217;s worth, I contacted my State Senator (R) and both Representatives (R) and the Governor&#8217;s office (R) and let them know that I am opposed to stripping these 750 state employees of their domestic partner health benefits, which would only save the state about $5 million dollars. How petty.</p>
<p>With every passing day, the New England area is looking more and more friendly.</p>
<p>Would I trade searingly hot summers and mild winters for mild summers (in comparison to Phoenix) and freezing winters? If it means equality under the law?</p>
<p>You betcha!</p>
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		<title>By: paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 16:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>maybe we need to show the legislature how many of us there are if maybe 10thousand plus gathered at the capitol to let them know  we will not forget this 2010  is our chance to remove these folks from office  if we have the will together with our straight allies we can do this</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maybe we need to show the legislature how many of us there are if maybe 10thousand plus gathered at the capitol to let them know  we will not forget this 2010  is our chance to remove these folks from office  if we have the will together with our straight allies we can do this</p>
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		<title>By: PDQ</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/06/06/11914/comment-page-1#comment-42214</link>
		<dc:creator>PDQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 02:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boycott Phoenix, Scottsdale, Sedona, the Grand Canyon, etc.  Boycott Arizona.  If you have a group meeting or event booked - cancel it and let them know why you did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boycott Phoenix, Scottsdale, Sedona, the Grand Canyon, etc.  Boycott Arizona.  If you have a group meeting or event booked &#8211; cancel it and let them know why you did.</p>
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		<title>By: homer</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/06/06/11914/comment-page-1#comment-42165</link>
		<dc:creator>homer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 02:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I sent Pamela Gorman, one of the main supporters of this bill in the Legislature, a nicely worded email asking her if why she was interested in removing insurance benefits for children. I doubt she will respond. Republicans never like to be called on their hate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sent Pamela Gorman, one of the main supporters of this bill in the Legislature, a nicely worded email asking her if why she was interested in removing insurance benefits for children. I doubt she will respond. Republicans never like to be called on their hate.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/06/06/11914/comment-page-1#comment-42164</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 01:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is exactly what happened in Michigan in 2004 when the marriage amendment was put on the ballot -- the same claim that DPs would be unaffected, the same rush to eliminate DP benefits once the amendment was in effect (it happened so fast the ink didn&#039;t have time to dry). One gets mighty tired of the ease at which Commandment #9 is violated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is exactly what happened in Michigan in 2004 when the marriage amendment was put on the ballot &#8212; the same claim that DPs would be unaffected, the same rush to eliminate DP benefits once the amendment was in effect (it happened so fast the ink didn&#8217;t have time to dry). One gets mighty tired of the ease at which Commandment #9 is violated.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/06/06/11914/comment-page-1#comment-42162</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 22:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bravo, Patrick M, My thoughts exactly!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo, Patrick M, My thoughts exactly!</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick M</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/06/06/11914/comment-page-1#comment-42153</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 15:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Us gays will believe most anything someone tells us, we&#039;re compasoniate, caring, loving, thoughtful. This article just goes to show we can&#039;t trust the claims of those who would deny rights for us. Compromise is and should never be an option. Full MARRIAGE rights is the only way to go. Besides it keeps the process simple. No new laws need to be written, discussed, or voted on. Repeal DOMA Accept nothing less than FULL MARRIAGE RIGHTS for all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Us gays will believe most anything someone tells us, we&#8217;re compasoniate, caring, loving, thoughtful. This article just goes to show we can&#8217;t trust the claims of those who would deny rights for us. Compromise is and should never be an option. Full MARRIAGE rights is the only way to go. Besides it keeps the process simple. No new laws need to be written, discussed, or voted on. Repeal DOMA Accept nothing less than FULL MARRIAGE RIGHTS for all.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 13:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is another reason why the &quot;compromise&quot; of civil unions/DP isn&#039;t really a compromise.

It&#039;s been made clear in this, and other cases, that the goal is to shut us out completely.  So the only way is full-marriage, as anything else is just too tenuous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is another reason why the &#8220;compromise&#8221; of civil unions/DP isn&#8217;t really a compromise.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s been made clear in this, and other cases, that the goal is to shut us out completely.  So the only way is full-marriage, as anything else is just too tenuous.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Waldrop</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/06/06/11914/comment-page-1#comment-42132</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Waldrop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 21:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a way this decision, along with the lunacy of Prop 8, can be a very good argument in favor of finally granting federally recognized full marital benefits to same-sex couples. As of now same-sex couples exist in a perpetual state of limbo. If they gain benefits they only have those benefits until the next election, or until the next special election, or until the state legislature decides to strip them of those benefits. By allowing existing same-sex couples to remain married while denying any new couples from marrying the California Supreme Court declared some couples&#039; unions to be more valid than others--which is the whole problem in the first place.

And in Arizona I can&#039;t see that same-sex couples  have any legal recourse because they&#039;re not allowed to marry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a way this decision, along with the lunacy of Prop 8, can be a very good argument in favor of finally granting federally recognized full marital benefits to same-sex couples. As of now same-sex couples exist in a perpetual state of limbo. If they gain benefits they only have those benefits until the next election, or until the next special election, or until the state legislature decides to strip them of those benefits. By allowing existing same-sex couples to remain married while denying any new couples from marrying the California Supreme Court declared some couples&#8217; unions to be more valid than others&#8211;which is the whole problem in the first place.</p>
<p>And in Arizona I can&#8217;t see that same-sex couples  have any legal recourse because they&#8217;re not allowed to marry.</p>
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