Comments on: The New Miss California Also Does Not Support Same-Sex Marriage

By: Timothy Kincaid

Timothy Kincaid — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:43:59 +0000

Jason,

I think your speculation about gender rolls is not without some merit.

I’d also suggest that some will see “beauty” as validation of God’s approval. An innocent face, an “inner beauty shining through” as opposed to sin making its mark, etc.

By: Jason D

Jason D — Sun, 14 Jun 2009 02:35:50 +0000

zeke, I’m about to go out on a limb here, but considering the somewhat overt sexism of the fundamentalist set — one of the highly encouraged bits of “women’s work” is the auspicious job of “being pretty”…..so as to attract a good husband. Thus “Beauty Queen” is kind of the omega of the few paths a woman has in that world.

You could almost hear the subtext during the dustup last month, the fundies wanting to say “but…how can you be mad at her…she’s pretty!”

By: Zeke

Zeke — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 22:12:32 +0000

My question is, why the hell does the Miss USA pageant have more fundamentalist Christian contestants than a Mississippi tent revival and why do gay people (coaches, hair dressers, designers, etc.) continue propping up these anti-gay fundie fests?

By: GreenEyedLilo

GreenEyedLilo — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 21:52:20 +0000

Good points, Jason. It’s actually kind of better this way.

I still want to see an openly lesbian or bisexual beauty queen, though.

By: CLS

CLS — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 19:17:36 +0000

Hilariously her answer is self-contradictory. She doesn’t think “anyone has the right to tell somebody who they can or cannot love” but apparently everyone has that right since “the right thing to do is let the voters decide.”

The real question is: When did individual rights become a matter of majority opinion? Is that theory just a advocating a glorified lynch mob. Surely in a lynch mob the majority expresses an opinion which is pretty much accepted by all with the obvious exception of an insignificant minority of one.

By: Jason D

Jason D — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 16:50:18 +0000

Ha! Good!

I mean good in the sense that this undermines Carrie’s “I’m being punished for my views and beliefs!” mantra.

Really, Carrie? They replaced one person who’s not in favor of marriage equality with someone else who’s ALSO not in favor of marriage equality. Gee, I guess you can’t say you’re being persecuted.

Has anyone bothered to check what the views are of Miss USA (who’s been undeservedly lost in the shuffle) she mentions in her bio her “missionary work” — so it would not be too farfetched to suggest that she’s a christian, and an active one at that. Doesn’t mean she’s against marriage equality, but it’s certainly possible.

By: Lindoro Almaviva

Lindoro Almaviva — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 08:24:43 +0000

OK, I think the difference here is not necessarily Tami’s opinion. If you look at the GMA interview, Keith (is that his name? Will you marry me?)is keeping a very close eye on her.

I think that she was coached and told very clearly that as an employee of Miss Cali, she was going to read from the script and her personal opinions be dammed.

I actually see a girl who is trying to dance a difficult dance here. She knows what happened to Carrie and Keith is not about to have the same thing happen to the organization.

I have a feeling that this time, he coached her strongly and she is being careful to please her boss and not to waste this opportunity.

Sorry, these days, I just do not trust anyone who comes and says the stuff that she says, mainly because I do not see marriage equality as a state-only issue and I certainly believe voters do not have a say on the issue; both are cop-outs. People have no right to vote on anyone’s rights and there is a federal issue to marriage that is still unresolved. So either remove the federal benefits of marriage, or be honest and say that marriage is a federal issue as much as a state issue.

By: Andrew

Andrew — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 03:01:25 +0000

Now here’s someone I can work with. She has her own opinion. She’s not strident, she understands the absurdity of the situation, and she’s a “hands-off” kind of person. This is so much more in keeping with most of the conservative Christian folk I encounter – aware, thoughtful, and possessing an opinion, but humble and open-handed. I’m happy to differ with Ms. Farrell, but I’m not at all unhappy that she’s got the name of my state across her sash.