Comments on: “Better Late Than Never”…

By: Tom in Lazybrook

Tom in Lazybrook — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:58:24 +0000

Nah..I’m tired of politicians saying they support us after they leave office.

By: ravenbiker

ravenbiker — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:04:50 +0000

I am a big Clinton fan and if DOMA wasn’t insulting enough, he now says it’s not a “federal” issue? Last I looked. DOMA is a federal mandate made into law.

But he’s right (reading between the lines of what he is trying to say). Marrage is a states rights issue. The federal government ought only to step in when 2/3 of the states passes new marriage law. However, Mr. Obama has cold feet when it comes to removing DOMA and DADT. He’s the one needing punished and not Clinton’s bend-over-and-hold-you-ankles-so-that-the-religious-right-infected-congressional-Republicans-can-f**k-you misstep.

By: cd

cd — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 01:26:55 +0000

Oh, come on. I hate the constant revisionism applied to the Clintons.

The argument in favor of DOMA in 1996 was that if we didn’t pass a federal statute, the Republicans and Religious Right would be able to get an amendment to the Constitution to bar gay marriage entirely. The animus of the RR and the math was correct, judging by all the mini-DOMAs that were later passed by over 3/4 of all the states. One could even imagine that DOMA was written in such a way that the courts could be expected to find it bad law.

Clinton couldn’t exactly walk away from DOMA after “championing” it. He’s a smart guy, he knows how to slip away slowly.

By: Ephilei

Ephilei — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 00:53:48 +0000

For the sake of argument, it’s very possible, even likely, Bill changed his mind. Think of how many other politicians have changed their mind in the past 13 years.

And “basically” means he has some minor objections that he doesn’t care to share.

By: Burr

Burr — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:09:46 +0000

Yeah well I’m “basically in support” of half-assed supporters like Clinton, but this should not be a question of me VOTING for them.

By: Ben in Oakland

Ben in Oakland — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:44:35 +0000

“What the..??? “What does basically in support mean”

It all depends…

on what the definition of “is” is.

By: Bruce Garrett

Bruce Garrett — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:15:10 +0000

“I have a vision for America, and you are part of it…” Just not while I’m president…

By: Andrew Conte

Andrew Conte — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:06:52 +0000

Scotte,
Yes it has been 13 years. However, for Clinton to say that he “basically supports us ” is like being “basically pregnant. And “this should not be a federal question” ???? That is a real slap to the face. It is a federal question because it is a federal question….thanks to Bill (and Hillary who only feels that only HALF of DOMA should be eliminated. The Clintons are not and NEVER have been friends of the gay community. Anything short of a heartfelt apology is totally useless.

By: scotte

scotte — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:50:40 +0000

I’m not a Clinton fan, but it has been 13 years since DOMA and it is possible Clinton has learned a few things in the meantime (hey, Senator Robert Byrd has gotten a 100% rating from the NAACP in recent sessions, so learning is possible). And while Clinton is no longer in power his views carry a lot of weight in many Democratic circles. (Or maybe I’m just on a leftover high from the Episcopal House of Bishops vote).

By: Nancye

Nancye — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:12:59 +0000

What the..??? “What does basically in support mean” ??????