Comments on: Gay Canadian Sues Church

By: July 27 roundup

July 27 roundup — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:12:48 +0000

[...] Complaint by gay altar server to Ontario Human Rights Tribunal menaces church’s autonomy [National Post via Box Turtle Bulletin] [...]

By: Timothy (TRiG)

Timothy (TRiG) — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 09:56:27 +0000

Slap is not impressed. TRiG.

By: Saturday Free Speech Roundup | Popehat

Saturday Free Speech Roundup | Popehat — Sat, 18 Jul 2009 22:38:45 +0000

[...] Box Turtle Bulletin, which devotes substantial coverage to same-sex marriage and related issues, offers a strong and principled argument against Canadian litigation seeking to force a church to accept an openly gay man as an alter server. The [...]

By: CLS

CLS — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:33:37 +0000

The altar server is in the wrong. Freedom of association means the church should be able to associate with whomever they wish and shun those they don’t. And we have the same and equal right to shun them if we wish.

Coercive state power is not the friend of the gay community. For every real crime it prevents there are hundreds of rights violations against gay people that are perpetrated by the State.

By: Jason D

Jason D — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:48:26 +0000

someone had on their bad idea jeans that day.

This is like the e-harmony suit. Some people really don’t quite understand the concept of “merit” within a case, and there are far too many lawyers eager to make a name for themselves by taking on controversial cases even when there is clearly no merit.

And count on Dobson, et al, to not only bring this up, but to add spice to it like say “He’s suing the church to force them to let him hang out with the altar boys, have his wedding at the church, and coupons for tacos!!!!”

By: ravenbiker

ravenbiker — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:28:34 +0000

In the quest to have the church remove themselves from civil law, we, as GLBT, need to learn to leave alone the churches.

I cringe at this suit.

By: Timothy (TRiG)

Timothy (TRiG) — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:21:55 +0000

Does this guy have a solicitor?

This is weird, and silly.

TRiG.

By: Christopher Waldrop

Christopher Waldrop — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:44:37 +0000

The stupidity of this is unbelievable, and, like a lot of other commenters, I worry about how Dobson et al will use this. Speaking of them, though, something that I think every regular visitor to this blog knows is that Dobson and his ilk are not above distorting facts or even simply lying to make their point. Even if this were a legitimate case of discrimination Dobson et al would find some way to call it an attack on their right to discriminate.

That’s what makes this both frustrating and frightening. It undermines legitimate problems.

By: Lynn David

Lynn David — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 03:09:48 +0000

*discrimination*… geesh!

By: Lynn David

Lynn David — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 03:09:08 +0000

I was Catholic, was a Church organist from an early age (instead of an altar server) and was for a time the Scoutmaster of the Boy Scout Troop associated with the parish. I even wrote a history of our parish for a parish directory. Most Catholic parishes use a varient of “don’t ask, don’t tell” when it comes to whether someone is gay. If you don’t ‘flaunt it’ then the parish priest takes a neutral position to anyone who is gay. Marrying your partner is considered to be ‘flaunting it’ and allows the Church to invoke the Catechism and do some “just descrimination” against you.