Comments on: Lying About The Hate Crime Bill, #2: “A Danger To Religious Freedom”

By: Priya Lynn

Priya Lynn — Tue, 21 Jul 2009 18:53:08 +0000

Roberta made the same post on the Truth Win’s Out blog under the name of Bob. Someone there asked for a translation as well. I suggested the comment translated as “Hate crimes law including gays bad. Gays bad, gay-hating Christians good.”

By: Timothy Kincaid

Timothy Kincaid — Tue, 21 Jul 2009 18:10:37 +0000

Roberta,

I had a hard time understanding you. Perhaps fewer scare quotes would lead to a clearer comment.

You appear to be factually mistaken.

Congress has long ago passed protection for Christians from gays. Federally, if a gay person targets Christians for hate crimes, the state can request Federal assistance in solving that crime.

However, before the Matthew Sheppard Hate Crimes bill, if a Christian targeted gay people, the Federal government was not allowed to provide assistance.

Perhaps you would have been better served by actually reading the bill rather than “sneakily planting” narc-angel raunch comments.

By: Timothy (TRiG)

Timothy (TRiG) — Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:14:14 +0000

The nearest think the UK has to a constitution, though, is the Human Rights Act, which is European legislation. I haven’t examined it properly, but it seems to be pretty good.

TRiG.

By: Alas, a blog » Blog Archive » Link Farm and Open Thread, Ithaca Edition

Mon, 20 Jul 2009 07:18:42 +0000

[...] Lying about the hate crime bill: “A danger to religious freedom.” (And see as well Box Turtle Bulletin’s earlier installment in this series, “There are 30 sexual orientations.“ [...]

By: Richard in CA

Richard in CA — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 04:00:47 +0000

Without doubt, this is the best explanation of the hate crimes law I have read. Extremely well researched and written.

By: Roberta

Roberta — Sat, 18 Jul 2009 20:46:15 +0000

“Hate Bill” Favoritism

If “hate bill”-obsessed Congress can’t protect Christians from “gays” as much as it wants to protect “gays” from Christians, will Congress be surprised if it can’t protect itself from most everyone? If “hate bills” are forced on captive Americans, they’ll still find ways to sneakily continue to “plant” Biblical messages everywhere. By doing so they’ll hasten God’s judgment on their oppressors as revealed in Proverbs 19:1. (See related web items including “David Letterman’s Hate, Etc.,” “Separation of Raunch and State,” “Michael the Narc-Angel,” and “Bible Verses Obama Avoids.”) Since Congress can’t seem to legislate “morality,” it’s making up for it by legislating “immorality”!

By: Sterling, this is your Supervisor : Equality Loudoun

Sterling, this is your Supervisor : Equality Loudoun — Sat, 18 Jul 2009 18:21:24 +0000

[...] Industry lies regarding the Matthew Shepard Hate Crimes bill, see here, here, here, here, here, and here, among many [...]

By: Jim Burroway

Jim Burroway — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:32:22 +0000

Thanks Timothy, I’ve modified the article accordingly.

Britain’s Bill of Rights, like all laws in Britain, are subject to revision and infringement by simple acts of Parliament. They are not enshrined in a constitution and set apart from Parliamentary influence or modification, as the American Bill of Rights are. Interestingly, the British Bill of Rights appears to be limited to placing limits on the King’s powers, not in preserving rights among the commons.

By: Timothy (TRiG)

Timothy (TRiG) — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 17:42:22 +0000

Britain does have a Bill of Rights. TRiG.

By: Jim Burroway

Jim Burroway — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 15:51:24 +0000

Thanks Jason. I corrected the typo.