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	<title>Comments on: TABC Chief Apologizes For Rainbow Lounge Raid, Says Agents Failed To &#8220;Follow The Damn Policy&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: CB</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/07/16/13302/comment-page-1#comment-45661</link>
		<dc:creator>CB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 00:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Backpeddling. I hope that those injured and/or arrested go for a civil suit against the supervisor who is suddenly retiring. Actually, I hope a civil lawsuit is filed against all law enforcement involved. Even if it fails, they will think twice about trying to strong arm gays.

Hmmmmmm, if the Matthew Shepard Act had been in effect, would this have constituted a hate crime???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Backpeddling. I hope that those injured and/or arrested go for a civil suit against the supervisor who is suddenly retiring. Actually, I hope a civil lawsuit is filed against all law enforcement involved. Even if it fails, they will think twice about trying to strong arm gays.</p>
<p>Hmmmmmm, if the Matthew Shepard Act had been in effect, would this have constituted a hate crime???</p>
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		<title>By: Burr</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/07/16/13302/comment-page-1#comment-45645</link>
		<dc:creator>Burr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kudos for manning up.

Honestly more than anything else this just highlights the stupidity of having enforcement agencies like the TABC. They don&#039;t do anything worthwhile and thus are prone to abusive actions like this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kudos for manning up.</p>
<p>Honestly more than anything else this just highlights the stupidity of having enforcement agencies like the TABC. They don&#8217;t do anything worthwhile and thus are prone to abusive actions like this.</p>
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		<title>By: Appology for Ft. Worth Bar Raid &#171; The Column: LGBT Society Now</title>
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		<dc:creator>Appology for Ft. Worth Bar Raid &#171; The Column: LGBT Society Now</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Richard W. Fitch</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/07/16/13302/comment-page-1#comment-45636</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard W. Fitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The City Council of Fort Worth is finally moving in the right direction. here is an excerpt from the Jul 21 agenda:
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CITY COUNCIL AGENDA  
FOR THE MEETING AT 10:00 A.M. TUESDAY, JULY 21, 2009  
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBER, CITY HALL  
1000 THROCKMORTON STREET, FORT WORTH, TEXAS  

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I.     CALL TO ORDER
 
   
II.     INVOCATION - Reverend Karl Travis, First Presbyterian Church
 
   
III.     PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
 
   
IV.     CONSIDERATION OF MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING OF JULY 14, 2009
 
   
V.     SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS, INTRODUCTIONS, ETC. 

   1.  Presentation by Kid&#039;s Who Care  

   2.  Recognition of International Leadership Academy  

   3.  Presentation of Proclamation for National Day of the American Cowboy in Fort Worth  
   
VI.     ANNOUNCEMENTS BY CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND STAFF
 

   1.  Upcoming and Recent Events 
 

   2.  Recognition of Citizens  
   
VII.     ITEMS TO BE WITHDRAWN FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA 
   
VIII.     ITEMS TO BE CONTINUED OR WITHDRAWN BY STAFF 
   
IX.     PRESENTATIONS BY THE CITY COUNCIL 

   1.  Changes in Membership on Boards and Commissions  
   
X.     PRESENTATIONS AND/OR COMMUNICATIONS FROM BOARDS, COMMISSIONS AND/OR CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEES 
   
XI.     RESOLUTIONS 

   1.  A Resolution Requesting an Independent Investigation by the United States Attorney&#039;s Office Regarding the Rainbow Lounge 
 

   2.  A Resolution of the City Council of the City of Fort Worth, Texas, Canceling and Changing Some Regularly Scheduled City Council Meetings for the Months of August Through December 2009 
 

   3.  A Resolution Supporting Implementation of the Nature Center Master Plan Through Establishment of a Permanent Fund Dedicated to the Nature Center with Future Mineral Lease Proceeds Up to $62 Million 
 

   4.  A Resolution of the City Council of the City of Fort Worth, Texas, Appointing a Member of the Board of Directors of the Fort Worth Crime Control and Prevention District to Fill an Unexpired Term
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Pressure has been applied from many quarters and finally require response.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The City Council of Fort Worth is finally moving in the right direction. here is an excerpt from the Jul 21 agenda:<br />
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CITY COUNCIL AGENDA<br />
FOR THE MEETING AT 10:00 A.M. TUESDAY, JULY 21, 2009<br />
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBER, CITY HALL<br />
1000 THROCKMORTON STREET, FORT WORTH, TEXAS  </p>
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<p>I.     CALL TO ORDER</p>
<p>II.     INVOCATION &#8211; Reverend Karl Travis, First Presbyterian Church</p>
<p>III.     PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE</p>
<p>IV.     CONSIDERATION OF MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING OF JULY 14, 2009</p>
<p>V.     SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS, INTRODUCTIONS, ETC. </p>
<p>   1.  Presentation by Kid&#8217;s Who Care  </p>
<p>   2.  Recognition of International Leadership Academy  </p>
<p>   3.  Presentation of Proclamation for National Day of the American Cowboy in Fort Worth  </p>
<p>VI.     ANNOUNCEMENTS BY CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND STAFF</p>
<p>   1.  Upcoming and Recent Events </p>
<p>   2.  Recognition of Citizens  </p>
<p>VII.     ITEMS TO BE WITHDRAWN FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA </p>
<p>VIII.     ITEMS TO BE CONTINUED OR WITHDRAWN BY STAFF </p>
<p>IX.     PRESENTATIONS BY THE CITY COUNCIL </p>
<p>   1.  Changes in Membership on Boards and Commissions  </p>
<p>X.     PRESENTATIONS AND/OR COMMUNICATIONS FROM BOARDS, COMMISSIONS AND/OR CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEES </p>
<p>XI.     RESOLUTIONS </p>
<p>   1.  A Resolution Requesting an Independent Investigation by the United States Attorney&#8217;s Office Regarding the Rainbow Lounge </p>
<p>   2.  A Resolution of the City Council of the City of Fort Worth, Texas, Canceling and Changing Some Regularly Scheduled City Council Meetings for the Months of August Through December 2009 </p>
<p>   3.  A Resolution Supporting Implementation of the Nature Center Master Plan Through Establishment of a Permanent Fund Dedicated to the Nature Center with Future Mineral Lease Proceeds Up to $62 Million </p>
<p>   4.  A Resolution of the City Council of the City of Fort Worth, Texas, Appointing a Member of the Board of Directors of the Fort Worth Crime Control and Prevention District to Fill an Unexpired Term<br />
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Pressure has been applied from many quarters and finally require response.</p>
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		<title>By: Norm!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Norm!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 17:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Judging from the clearly uncomfortable and hostile attitudes in Texas, Steen&#039;s admission is courageous.  

I think I visited the Rainbow Lounge a few years ago while visiting Fort Worth for a wedding.  My friend and I were short on time and didn&#039;t know the name of the bar, so we walked and drove through Fort Worth&#039;s downtown nervously asking people where the gay bar was. 

EVERYONE knew there was a gay bar in town, but no one admitted to knowing exactly where it was.  Most responses we received began with a disclaimer like, &quot;I&#039;m not a homosexual, but I heard there is a gay bar over . . .&quot;.  We did find the small bar.  Although I don&#039;t frequent bars, I could certainly see how the Rainbow Lounge is an attractive, friendly refuge. 

BTW, as I recall, the bar is in a industrial area that seemed abandoned and seedy (no trendy lofts and only suspicious folks on the corners).  So, it&#039;s incredibly doubtful anyone would complain of public intoxication.  At the time, we noted the only other place open near the bar was the police station which we (mistakenly) thought would be a safe place to go for directions.  Thankfully, we found the bar before trying the police station.  

The whole trip just re-affirmed my bias against anything Texan. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Judging from the clearly uncomfortable and hostile attitudes in Texas, Steen&#8217;s admission is courageous.  </p>
<p>I think I visited the Rainbow Lounge a few years ago while visiting Fort Worth for a wedding.  My friend and I were short on time and didn&#8217;t know the name of the bar, so we walked and drove through Fort Worth&#8217;s downtown nervously asking people where the gay bar was. </p>
<p>EVERYONE knew there was a gay bar in town, but no one admitted to knowing exactly where it was.  Most responses we received began with a disclaimer like, &#8220;I&#8217;m not a homosexual, but I heard there is a gay bar over . . .&#8221;.  We did find the small bar.  Although I don&#8217;t frequent bars, I could certainly see how the Rainbow Lounge is an attractive, friendly refuge. </p>
<p>BTW, as I recall, the bar is in a industrial area that seemed abandoned and seedy (no trendy lofts and only suspicious folks on the corners).  So, it&#8217;s incredibly doubtful anyone would complain of public intoxication.  At the time, we noted the only other place open near the bar was the police station which we (mistakenly) thought would be a safe place to go for directions.  Thankfully, we found the bar before trying the police station.  </p>
<p>The whole trip just re-affirmed my bias against anything Texan. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Karan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Karan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 15:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim, Lilo, 
I too agree. The sargeant should not be allowed to retire until after the investigation is complete, and only if there is no cause found to fire him outright.  One would presume that, if fired, said sargeant would not receive any of the benefits afforded to him in an &quot;honorable&quot; retirement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim, Lilo,<br />
I too agree. The sargeant should not be allowed to retire until after the investigation is complete, and only if there is no cause found to fire him outright.  One would presume that, if fired, said sargeant would not receive any of the benefits afforded to him in an &#8220;honorable&#8221; retirement.</p>
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		<title>By: GreenEyedLilo</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenEyedLilo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 11:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Timothy.  Right before Pride in NYC this year, Seymour Pine, who authorized the Stonewall raid, said in an interview that he still thinks they did the right thing.  Alan Steen is, thankfully, not like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Timothy.  Right before Pride in NYC this year, Seymour Pine, who authorized the Stonewall raid, said in an interview that he still thinks they did the right thing.  Alan Steen is, thankfully, not like that.</p>
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		<title>By: timothy kincaid</title>
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		<dc:creator>timothy kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 07:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A high ranking official that is owning resposibility, refusing to cover, admiting blame, and looking for solutions? I&#039;m imppressed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A high ranking official that is owning resposibility, refusing to cover, admiting blame, and looking for solutions? I&#8217;m imppressed.</p>
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		<title>By: Lindoro Almaviva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lindoro Almaviva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 05:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would not allow the agent to retire until the investigation ran its course. With he retiring he effectively shielded himself from any disciplinary action and loosing pension. Not fair.

I hope he gets sued for violation of civil liberties. He needs to be held accountable one way or another.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would not allow the agent to retire until the investigation ran its course. With he retiring he effectively shielded himself from any disciplinary action and loosing pension. Not fair.</p>
<p>I hope he gets sued for violation of civil liberties. He needs to be held accountable one way or another.</p>
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