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	<title>Comments on: Showing Christ</title>
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	<description>News, analysis and fact-checking of anti-gay rhetoric</description>
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		<title>By: Zeke</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/07/21/13486/comment-page-1#comment-46158</link>
		<dc:creator>Zeke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 02:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Me Too, as a proud member of the United Church of Christ I can tell you that I know for a fact that if you aren&#039;t happy with the pro-gay, very Christian stance of your local church, or of the national church, there are literally THOUSANDS of anti-gay options for you in any of the number of anti-gay churches available to you.  

Please don&#039;t stay where you are unhappy.  Go to the Baptist, Pentacostal, Catholic, Church of God or Holiness church down the street.  You will be happy to be there and they will be happy to have you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me Too, as a proud member of the United Church of Christ I can tell you that I know for a fact that if you aren&#8217;t happy with the pro-gay, very Christian stance of your local church, or of the national church, there are literally THOUSANDS of anti-gay options for you in any of the number of anti-gay churches available to you.  </p>
<p>Please don&#8217;t stay where you are unhappy.  Go to the Baptist, Pentacostal, Catholic, Church of God or Holiness church down the street.  You will be happy to be there and they will be happy to have you.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 00:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Me Too,

How, ummmmm, &lt;i&gt;charming&lt;/i&gt; that you think the sex and race of your church leadership is relevant.</description>
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<p>How, ummmmm, <i>charming</i> that you think the sex and race of your church leadership is relevant.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher™</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/07/21/13486/comment-page-1#comment-46149</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher™</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Me Too:  &quot;Bitter, party of one.&quot;

If you have issues with your church&#039;s leadership, then find another church to attend.  It&#039;s that simple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me Too:  &#8220;Bitter, party of one.&#8221;</p>
<p>If you have issues with your church&#8217;s leadership, then find another church to attend.  It&#8217;s that simple.</p>
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		<title>By: Me Too</title>
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		<dc:creator>Me Too</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are some of us at Hadwen Park Church who are not happy with all of this publicity.  We have become a UCC church who has no voice anymore.  Just the voice of a psycho bi-bolar woman and her black flunky!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are some of us at Hadwen Park Church who are not happy with all of this publicity.  We have become a UCC church who has no voice anymore.  Just the voice of a psycho bi-bolar woman and her black flunky!</p>
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		<title>By: L. Junius Brutus</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/07/21/13486/comment-page-1#comment-46099</link>
		<dc:creator>L. Junius Brutus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.&quot;
- Mahatma Gandhi

The main problem is that the Christians who are extremely vocal about being Christians are usually of the not-so-savory kind. To an outsider, they would appear to make up a much greater part of Christianity than they actually do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.&#8221;<br />
- Mahatma Gandhi</p>
<p>The main problem is that the Christians who are extremely vocal about being Christians are usually of the not-so-savory kind. To an outsider, they would appear to make up a much greater part of Christianity than they actually do.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Waldrop</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/07/21/13486/comment-page-1#comment-46093</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Waldrop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 12:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having said many times that I don&#039;t often see tolerant, open-minded people of faith, I have to say that it&#039;s wonderful to read a story like this. This story will probably not get the attention it deserves, but I think it&#039;s fair to say that the people of this church aren&#039;t doing it for the attention. They&#039;re doing it because it&#039;s the right thing to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having said many times that I don&#8217;t often see tolerant, open-minded people of faith, I have to say that it&#8217;s wonderful to read a story like this. This story will probably not get the attention it deserves, but I think it&#8217;s fair to say that the people of this church aren&#8217;t doing it for the attention. They&#8217;re doing it because it&#8217;s the right thing to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Birdie</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/07/21/13486/comment-page-1#comment-46090</link>
		<dc:creator>Birdie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This a wonderful example to hold up to the Christian world, of humble compassion for the disenfranchised. This is exactly what the straight Christian community needs to see. I applaud this church for their spiritual commitment to following the commandment to love one another.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This a wonderful example to hold up to the Christian world, of humble compassion for the disenfranchised. This is exactly what the straight Christian community needs to see. I applaud this church for their spiritual commitment to following the commandment to love one another.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 03:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This church should be very proud of the good work it is doing in the community. They are making a real difference in the world, bettering people&#039;s lives and showing real Christ-like compassion.   It&#039;s a real shame that all those huge, megachurches that you hear about that surely have the financial resources to do this kind of work wouldn&#039;t be caught dead having anything to do with it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This church should be very proud of the good work it is doing in the community. They are making a real difference in the world, bettering people&#8217;s lives and showing real Christ-like compassion.   It&#8217;s a real shame that all those huge, megachurches that you hear about that surely have the financial resources to do this kind of work wouldn&#8217;t be caught dead having anything to do with it!</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Rush</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Rush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 03:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s always gratifying to see people being kind and decent towards others. I would like to believe that the good deeds are motivated by rational thinking and an internal concern for the well-being of others, and that may very well be the case here. But I would find it somewhat unsettling if the good deeds were motivated by what they think a deity wants them to do. Or, perhaps they are cultural Christians who may not even believe in the divinity of Christ, but still see him as a great historical figure (among others) who had many profoundly insightful things to say. I wouldn&#039;t find that unsettling at all.

My belief or non-belief in the existence of the God of the Bible is not based upon the deeds of his followers. One of the frequent distractions in the debates between atheists and Christians is the evaluation of the historic and present behavior of each side&#039;s proponents. God either exists or he doesn&#039;t, and this distraction doesn&#039;t help answer that question. This all seems consistent with the Christian trait of taking credit for all things deemed good, and deflecting responsibility for all things deemed bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s always gratifying to see people being kind and decent towards others. I would like to believe that the good deeds are motivated by rational thinking and an internal concern for the well-being of others, and that may very well be the case here. But I would find it somewhat unsettling if the good deeds were motivated by what they think a deity wants them to do. Or, perhaps they are cultural Christians who may not even believe in the divinity of Christ, but still see him as a great historical figure (among others) who had many profoundly insightful things to say. I wouldn&#8217;t find that unsettling at all.</p>
<p>My belief or non-belief in the existence of the God of the Bible is not based upon the deeds of his followers. One of the frequent distractions in the debates between atheists and Christians is the evaluation of the historic and present behavior of each side&#8217;s proponents. God either exists or he doesn&#8217;t, and this distraction doesn&#8217;t help answer that question. This all seems consistent with the Christian trait of taking credit for all things deemed good, and deflecting responsibility for all things deemed bad.</p>
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