Comments on: LaBarbera Award: Steven L. Anderson http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/08/21/14169 News, analysis and fact-checking of anti-gay rhetoric Tue, 21 May 2013 13:48:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: Mary Hickling http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/08/21/14169/comment-page-2#comment-49347 Mary Hickling Tue, 08 Sep 2009 01:21:51 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=14169#comment-49347 Well, check this out: http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2009/09/07/ktvk.az.rally.church.ktvk and this: http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2009/04/17/20090417borderbeating0417-ON.html I smell a nutjob. Well, check this out:

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2009/09/07/ktvk.az.rally.church.ktvk

and this:

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2009/04/17/20090417borderbeating0417-ON.html

I smell a nutjob.

]]> By: Mark in Boise ID http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/08/21/14169/comment-page-2#comment-49118 Mark in Boise ID Thu, 03 Sep 2009 19:58:28 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=14169#comment-49118 I tried to email the guy with plenty of scripture to demonstrate that he's full of crap and the bible doesn't support any of what he says, but lo' and behold (shocking) both the email address on the church web site and the phone number of the congregation are disconnected. Sad. Not as though he would have listened anyway. Narcissists like this almost impossible to reach. Anyone have his email please send it to me at: mnielebe at hotmail dot com. I tried to email the guy with plenty of scripture to demonstrate that he’s full of crap and the bible doesn’t support any of what he says, but lo’ and behold (shocking) both the email address on the church web site and the phone number of the congregation are disconnected. Sad. Not as though he would have listened anyway. Narcissists like this almost impossible to reach. Anyone have his email please send it to me at: mnielebe at hotmail dot com.

]]> By: demonskull7 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/08/21/14169/comment-page-2#comment-49007 demonskull7 Wed, 02 Sep 2009 03:54:08 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=14169#comment-49007 quite simply pastor steven anderson is a dangerous rightwing religious nutcase!!!!the brand of hatred,intolerance and bigotry he preaches appeals to those with single or double digit I.Q.s.my fear is that his rhetoric will incite some inbred rightwing wing religios morons to go commit acts of violence and murder!!! if god forbid, any one of his moronic followers do commit violent crimes against any person or group that he condems in his hate sermons he and his henchmen should be held criminally responsible,prosecuted and jailed!!this so-called man of god is just a perfect example of why church and state should remain seperate entities.the worst thing that could happen to this country would be to allow people like pastor anderson and others like him to turn this country into a theocracy!! quite simply pastor steven anderson is a dangerous rightwing religious nutcase!!!!the brand of hatred,intolerance and bigotry he preaches appeals to those with single or double digit I.Q.s.my fear is that his rhetoric will incite some inbred rightwing wing religios morons to go commit acts of violence and murder!!! if god forbid, any one of his moronic followers do commit violent crimes against any person or group that he condems in his hate sermons he and his henchmen should be held criminally responsible,prosecuted and jailed!!this so-called man of god is just a perfect example of why church and state should remain seperate entities.the worst thing that could happen to this country would be to allow people like pastor anderson and others like him to turn this country into a theocracy!!

]]> By: Paul http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/08/21/14169/comment-page-2#comment-48773 Paul Sat, 29 Aug 2009 21:39:03 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=14169#comment-48773 Surely if somebody of the same sex raped or molested me I'd be LESS likely to want to repeat the experience than to think "oooo that was fun, let's do it again?" What I would like to know is why haven't the mainstream Christian denominations taken this guy on, using his own Bible against him. Many will say they disagree with this kind of hate speech but only because they find it 'distasteful' or 'nasty,' not because they can build a Biblically-centered case that it's wrong. Mind you, he's not very smart - you should see the idiotic way he "proves" that the KJV is the authentic and authoritative word of God and his resentment at people who, you know, actually can read Biblical Greek. :) Surely if somebody of the same sex raped or molested me I’d be LESS likely to want to repeat the experience than to think “oooo that was fun, let’s do it again?”

What I would like to know is why haven’t the mainstream Christian denominations taken this guy on, using his own Bible against him. Many will say they disagree with this kind of hate speech but only because they find it ‘distasteful’ or ‘nasty,’ not because they can build a Biblically-centered case that it’s wrong.

Mind you, he’s not very smart – you should see the idiotic way he “proves” that the KJV is the authentic and authoritative word of God and his resentment at people who, you know, actually can read Biblical Greek. :)

]]> By: Sarah http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/08/21/14169/comment-page-2#comment-48707 Sarah Fri, 28 Aug 2009 20:37:29 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=14169#comment-48707 CHRISTOPHER, Thanks for the history on this guy. Sounds like he might be a psycho. CHRISTOPHER, Thanks for the history on this guy. Sounds like he might be a psycho.

]]> By: Emily K http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/08/21/14169/comment-page-2#comment-48634 Emily K Thu, 27 Aug 2009 21:28:36 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=14169#comment-48634 Let's not forget Asexuals. (Yes, they do exist). That could also be part of the "other" categories. Let’s not forget Asexuals. (Yes, they do exist). That could also be part of the “other” categories.

]]> By: Priya Lynn http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/08/21/14169/comment-page-2#comment-48629 Priya Lynn Thu, 27 Aug 2009 19:01:33 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=14169#comment-48629 Timothy, it also follows that we cannot assume some or most of the "something else" and "did not report" are <i>not</i> same sex attracted. Given the NYC survery that demonstrates that 10% of those claiming to be straight are having gay sex and common sense knowledge that many people who are same sex attracted will not admit it to being gay to a survey under any circumstances (I think we all know gays who won't admit to outsiders they are gay) it'd be foolish to believe that there is any survey that does not underrepresent the true percentage of gays. Timothy, it also follows that we cannot assume some or most of the “something else” and “did not report” are not same sex attracted.

Given the NYC survery that demonstrates that 10% of those claiming to be straight are having gay sex and common sense knowledge that many people who are same sex attracted will not admit it to being gay to a survey under any circumstances (I think we all know gays who won’t admit to outsiders they are gay) it’d be foolish to believe that there is any survey that does not underrepresent the true percentage of gays.

]]> By: Timothy Kincaid http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/08/21/14169/comment-page-2#comment-48628 Timothy Kincaid Thu, 27 Aug 2009 18:52:03 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=14169#comment-48628 Priya Lynn, The CDC report from 2005 showed the following break-out for men: 90.2% - Heterosexual 2.3% - Homosexual 1.8% - Bisexual 3.9% - Something else 1.8% - Did not report While it is likely that some of the "something else" and the "did not report" are gay or bisexual, we cannot <i>assume</i> that most - or even any - of them are same-sex attracted. The most we can say is that 4.1% reported identifying as gay or bisexual. However it certainly is logical that most surveys undercount the gay/bi population. Alex, It appears that Hunter uses Knowledge Network's online panel as their basis. I'm not convinced that their panel is representative of the population as a whole. Priya Lynn,

The CDC report from 2005 showed the following break-out for men:

90.2% – Heterosexual
2.3% – Homosexual
1.8% – Bisexual
3.9% – Something else
1.8% – Did not report

While it is likely that some of the “something else” and the “did not report” are gay or bisexual, we cannot assume that most – or even any – of them are same-sex attracted. The most we can say is that 4.1% reported identifying as gay or bisexual.

However it certainly is logical that most surveys undercount the gay/bi population.

Alex,

It appears that Hunter uses Knowledge Network’s online panel as their basis. I’m not convinced that their panel is representative of the population as a whole.

]]> By: Priya Lynn http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/08/21/14169/comment-page-2#comment-48627 Priya Lynn Thu, 27 Aug 2009 18:48:26 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=14169#comment-48627 I should have clarified - MSM means men who have sex with men. I should have clarified – MSM means men who have sex with men.

]]> By: Priya Lynn http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/08/21/14169/comment-page-2#comment-48626 Priya Lynn Thu, 27 Aug 2009 18:44:48 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=14169#comment-48626 Further to that, A 2003 telephone survey of more than 4,000 men conducted by the New York City public health department published in the Annals of Internal Medicine found that MSM who deny being gay are more numerous than self-acknowledged gay or bisexual men. According to Reuters, fully 10 percent of the men in the survey who identified themselves as "straight" said in the past year they had sex with one or more men but no woman. http://www.indegayforum.org/news/printer/31092.html Its pretty much a sure bet that if men who deny being gay are having same sex sex there are also a lot of men having same sex sex who deny doing so as well. Further to that, A 2003 telephone survey of more than 4,000 men conducted by the New York City public health department published in the Annals of Internal Medicine found that MSM who deny being gay are more numerous than self-acknowledged gay or bisexual men.

According to Reuters, fully 10 percent of the men in the survey who identified themselves as “straight” said in the past year they had sex with one or more men but no woman.

http://www.indegayforum.org/news/printer/31092.html

Its pretty much a sure bet that if men who deny being gay are having same sex sex there are also a lot of men having same sex sex who deny doing so as well.

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