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	<title>Comments on: Lesbian Couple Say They Were Assaulted At Baptist Church</title>
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	<description>News, analysis and fact-checking of anti-gay rhetoric</description>
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		<title>By: CannotfoolHim</title>
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		<dc:creator>CannotfoolHim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 16:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I checked the pastor out on Youtube, and he seems to be a very liberal pastor, not conservative at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I checked the pastor out on Youtube, and he seems to be a very liberal pastor, not conservative at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Jarred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jarred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 14:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having found &lt;a href=&quot;http://grand-divisions.blogspot.com/2009/08/female-couple-expelled-from-mayoral.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a slightly more detailed account of this incident&lt;/a&gt;, I&#039;m inclined to think this is a more complicated situation than two women being kicked out for being gay.  Listening to the women&#039;s description of the worship activities and the pastor&#039;s alleged response to their decision to remain seated, it sounds to me like NOBC may be a particular kind of charismatic church that can be both frightening and controlling.  I&#039;m reminded of a Pentecostal church that I attended one Sunday evening with the rest of the short term missions group I was a part of at the time.  The experience was quite traumatic for the entire team, which was composed of serious, devout, and life-long Christians.  (And some of us were even from charismatic/Pentecostal backgrounds.)

So yeah, it looks like the issue of NOBC might be more than NOBC not liking gay people in their service.  It could be that they demand a specific style of worship and ostracize anyone -- even newcomers -- that don&#039;t jump into line.

As an aside, does anyone besides me find it annoying that you have to navigate through three different pages on the NOBC website to get to their statement of faith?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having found <a href="http://grand-divisions.blogspot.com/2009/08/female-couple-expelled-from-mayoral.html" rel="nofollow">a slightly more detailed account of this incident</a>, I&#8217;m inclined to think this is a more complicated situation than two women being kicked out for being gay.  Listening to the women&#8217;s description of the worship activities and the pastor&#8217;s alleged response to their decision to remain seated, it sounds to me like NOBC may be a particular kind of charismatic church that can be both frightening and controlling.  I&#8217;m reminded of a Pentecostal church that I attended one Sunday evening with the rest of the short term missions group I was a part of at the time.  The experience was quite traumatic for the entire team, which was composed of serious, devout, and life-long Christians.  (And some of us were even from charismatic/Pentecostal backgrounds.)</p>
<p>So yeah, it looks like the issue of NOBC might be more than NOBC not liking gay people in their service.  It could be that they demand a specific style of worship and ostracize anyone &#8212; even newcomers &#8212; that don&#8217;t jump into line.</p>
<p>As an aside, does anyone besides me find it annoying that you have to navigate through three different pages on the NOBC website to get to their statement of faith?</p>
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		<title>By: JimInMa</title>
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		<dc:creator>JimInMa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 12:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just more reaffirmation that religion is itself evil.  And I quote myself:
&quot;Religion is the root/route of all evil.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just more reaffirmation that religion is itself evil.  And I quote myself:<br />
&#8220;Religion is the root/route of all evil.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Leonard Drake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leonard Drake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 03:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex, VERY interesting, indeed. It was quite shocking reading some of the comments referenced in the primary article Jim referenced to [above]. The comments from some of the church members &quot;blowing kisses to god&quot; and justifying/debating GLBT members as worthy of attndance, presence and/or membership in their church.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex, VERY interesting, indeed. It was quite shocking reading some of the comments referenced in the primary article Jim referenced to [above]. The comments from some of the church members &#8220;blowing kisses to god&#8221; and justifying/debating GLBT members as worthy of attndance, presence and/or membership in their church.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 02:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Evangelicals have such an...interesting...way of making outsiders feel welcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evangelicals have such an&#8230;interesting&#8230;way of making outsiders feel welcome.</p>
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		<title>By: Burr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Burr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 02:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah without something recorded it&#039;s just a he said she said thing..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah without something recorded it&#8217;s just a he said she said thing..</p>
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		<title>By: David C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>David C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 01:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take your portable recording devices with you whenever you enter the lions den.</description>
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