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	<title>Comments on: LaBarbera Award: Laurie Higgins</title>
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		<title>By: Bruce Garrett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce Garrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 23:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did the irony of her question leap out at anyone here like it did me when I read it?  Read it again and imagine that the person asking it is referring, not to homosexuality, but to the kind of vitriolic homophobia she&#039;s campaigning for.  How depraved does the behavior have to be? How young the victims?  When, finally, comes outrage from the pulpit at all the indecent, cruel, and evil practices, the body and soul-destroying ideas taught to children?  Gay children.  When?

Well...if she has her way, never, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did the irony of her question leap out at anyone here like it did me when I read it?  Read it again and imagine that the person asking it is referring, not to homosexuality, but to the kind of vitriolic homophobia she&#8217;s campaigning for.  How depraved does the behavior have to be? How young the victims?  When, finally, comes outrage from the pulpit at all the indecent, cruel, and evil practices, the body and soul-destroying ideas taught to children?  Gay children.  When?</p>
<p>Well&#8230;if she has her way, never, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 18:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darn those Lutherans!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darn those Lutherans!!</p>
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		<title>By: Ben in Oakland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben in Oakland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 18:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Don’t we today see church leaders self-censoring out of fear of losing their positions or their church members?&quot;

Translation: we&#039;re losing ground, even in the churches. Churchgoers are more and more not buying it-- some more than others.

&quot;Don’t we see churches criticizing those who boldly confront the efforts of homosexual activists to propagandize children and undermine the church’s teaching on homosexuality?&quot;

Translation: Even churches are willing to stand up and be counted. Our days spewing our bile are numbered. P.S. don&#039;t for get about THE CHILDREN (TM).

&quot;…I’ve asked this question before and I will ask it again: How depraved does the behavior have to be and how young the victims before the church, starting with those who have freely chosen to assume the mantle of pastor or priest, will both feel and express outrage at the indecent, cruel, and evil practice of using public money to affirm body and soul-destroying ideas to children?&quot;

Point: This is a sly dig at the Catholic Church, and a question she should be asking them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Don’t we today see church leaders self-censoring out of fear of losing their positions or their church members?&#8221;</p>
<p>Translation: we&#8217;re losing ground, even in the churches. Churchgoers are more and more not buying it&#8211; some more than others.</p>
<p>&#8220;Don’t we see churches criticizing those who boldly confront the efforts of homosexual activists to propagandize children and undermine the church’s teaching on homosexuality?&#8221;</p>
<p>Translation: Even churches are willing to stand up and be counted. Our days spewing our bile are numbered. P.S. don&#8217;t for get about THE CHILDREN (TM).</p>
<p>&#8220;…I’ve asked this question before and I will ask it again: How depraved does the behavior have to be and how young the victims before the church, starting with those who have freely chosen to assume the mantle of pastor or priest, will both feel and express outrage at the indecent, cruel, and evil practice of using public money to affirm body and soul-destroying ideas to children?&#8221;</p>
<p>Point: This is a sly dig at the Catholic Church, and a question she should be asking them.</p>
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		<title>By: Regan DuCasse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Regan DuCasse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ms. Higgins and I exchanged some lively emails. I think I told her that I was a member and volunteer of the Simon Weisenthal Center/Museum of Tolerance in Los Angeles.
 It&#039;s a Holocaust archive, but most of all it&#039;s an educational center dedicated to teaching about and lessening hate and bigotry in the world.
It&#039;s an institution that I&#039;m proud to know and serve and I encourage EVERYONE I know to go there, and be amazed.

   Laurie Higgins however, resists. I found her through Good As You blog and Jeremy Hooper&#039;s analysis of this same analogy of hers is extremely smart and would make Simon Weisenthal proud.

     A less kinder term I would use for her is a rabid bigot, who deserves to be committed to community service at the Museum, which is usually where hatemongers, bias vandals and those who have committed bias crimes are made to go.

     Not only does she demean the very nature and remarkable way that the Nazis were so efficient in their mission, she&#039;s showing the very symptoms of why and how the most genteel German, Pole or Russian turned on their Jewish, gypsy, physically handicapped and trade union neighbors.

    She&#039;d deny it, but yes...she&#039;d join the lynch party between Georgia and Berlin. She already has.
In fact, I called the ADL and the Museum about her, and frankly, although the ADL has addressed what she does and says, the Museum has more powerful ways of dealing with her.
   
  I will double dog DARE her to show up at the Museum and let me and the other fine docents give her a tour.
I dare her to show up at a PFLAG, or COLAGE meeting.

 She&#039;s a lot of talk. Very, very COWARDLY talk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ms. Higgins and I exchanged some lively emails. I think I told her that I was a member and volunteer of the Simon Weisenthal Center/Museum of Tolerance in Los Angeles.<br />
 It&#8217;s a Holocaust archive, but most of all it&#8217;s an educational center dedicated to teaching about and lessening hate and bigotry in the world.<br />
It&#8217;s an institution that I&#8217;m proud to know and serve and I encourage EVERYONE I know to go there, and be amazed.</p>
<p>   Laurie Higgins however, resists. I found her through Good As You blog and Jeremy Hooper&#8217;s analysis of this same analogy of hers is extremely smart and would make Simon Weisenthal proud.</p>
<p>     A less kinder term I would use for her is a rabid bigot, who deserves to be committed to community service at the Museum, which is usually where hatemongers, bias vandals and those who have committed bias crimes are made to go.</p>
<p>     Not only does she demean the very nature and remarkable way that the Nazis were so efficient in their mission, she&#8217;s showing the very symptoms of why and how the most genteel German, Pole or Russian turned on their Jewish, gypsy, physically handicapped and trade union neighbors.</p>
<p>    She&#8217;d deny it, but yes&#8230;she&#8217;d join the lynch party between Georgia and Berlin. She already has.<br />
In fact, I called the ADL and the Museum about her, and frankly, although the ADL has addressed what she does and says, the Museum has more powerful ways of dealing with her.</p>
<p>  I will double dog DARE her to show up at the Museum and let me and the other fine docents give her a tour.<br />
I dare her to show up at a PFLAG, or COLAGE meeting.</p>
<p> She&#8217;s a lot of talk. Very, very COWARDLY talk.</p>
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		<title>By: Jarred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jarred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ms. Higgins seems to think that my proclivity to find emotional, romantic and sexual intimacy with another man is somehow comparable to the Nazi&#039;s campaign to oppress and destroy and entire group of people due to their culture.  I simply cannot fathom the tormented logic that would bring someone to that conclusion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ms. Higgins seems to think that my proclivity to find emotional, romantic and sexual intimacy with another man is somehow comparable to the Nazi&#8217;s campaign to oppress and destroy and entire group of people due to their culture.  I simply cannot fathom the tormented logic that would bring someone to that conclusion.</p>
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