Comments on: WA Anti-Gays to Remain Anonymous

By: ebohlman

ebohlman — Thu, 17 Sep 2009 07:29:29 +0000

From what I can tell, the decision was merely to grant a request for a preliminary injunction, and thus doesn’t set any precedent at all.

By: Ty Hand

Ty Hand — Sun, 13 Sep 2009 00:21:56 +0000

Why didn’t the “Approve Ref. 71″ group hire ‘petition signing blockers ?’ It is perfectly legal in California. Is it here in Washington? If so, that would have cost some money for the different pro-partnership organizations, however, it would be less expensive than what we have to deal with now.

By: aj

aj — Sat, 12 Sep 2009 05:08:30 +0000

I think what makes the ruling even worse, are the WAY the petition drive was done in the first place. While I totally agree that the names should be public (if you don’t want them public, DON’T SIGN), but how so many were (apparently) tricked, lied to or deceived into signing in the first place. There is a youtube video (sorry I don’t have the link), where the signature gatherer was caught lying to people to get them so sign, when caught, he didn’t seem to really care, as long as he got the signatures. I won’t even go into the lies (protect marriage/save children, etc) that has already been mentioned here and on other blogs. I am almost ashamed to live in Washington with a SoS that is willing to ignore Washington state law to appease a few “Family value” types (values that benefit them, not others, of course ;( ).
just my 2 cents

By: Richard W. Fitch

Richard W. Fitch — Sat, 12 Sep 2009 02:18:12 +0000

Escalade?? Hasn’t that been proven to be a very unsafe vehicle? Well, maybe there is some poetic justice to that….

By: Eddie89

Eddie89 — Sat, 12 Sep 2009 02:14:25 +0000

I believe that it’s only banana republic type countries that use secret ballots for their petitions.

Saying something like this:

“Trust us! We are the authorities and we have verified all of the signatures and they are ALL valid! Nothing to see here! Move along!”

And why shouldn’t we “trust” the authorities!?

After all, they are honest, loving, caring, truthful Christians that follow the word of almighty God and would never, ever lie, cheat or steal. Because doing so would cause them to burn in hell for ever!

Oh, unless they are doing so against homosexuals.

Then, it’s OK!

God blesses their Christian Jihad against those vile homosexuals!

For every gay that gets their civil rights denied here on earth, they get 72 Cadillac Escalades in heaven! Each one with a golden Jesus fish on the back bumper!

By: Derrick Davis

Derrick Davis — Sat, 12 Sep 2009 01:07:45 +0000

Here is a question I have had. Let’s suppose that the domestic partnership bill is overturned in Washington. Can the state legislature just pass the bill again and the governor sign it? Obviously, it would be unpopular, but is there anything stopping them from passing the law again? What about in Maine?

By: Cole

Cole — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 23:11:03 +0000

Only now will the state appeal the secrecy because the referendum is already certified and being printed on ballots and gay rights groups won’t challenge the validity of any signature.

APPROVE Referendum 71. Gay couples deserve the exact rights heterosexual couples have.
http://tinyurl.com/poc4h5

By: Heterosexual Dictatorship « Queer Equality Revolution

Heterosexual Dictatorship « Queer Equality Revolution — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 22:12:25 +0000

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By: Penguinsaur

Penguinsaur — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 22:09:29 +0000

Wouldn’t we want such signees to have privacy?

I’d gladly let people know I signed a pro-gay petition. I’d be proud to let people know I did that. My position isn’t based on bigotry and ignorance so I don’t feel the need to hide my support or avoid discussion.
And then their the other side to this, how do we know the petition signers even know their on the list? With the honesty your average bigot shows their could be people who had no idea what that petition they signed was for until a friend starts asking why they’re trying to ban their marriage.

By: Burr

Burr — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 21:37:26 +0000

No Matt. What’s fair is fair. Even if it were the other way around, you have no right to privacy if you’re signing your name to something that is supposed to be of PUBLIC RECORD.

This isn’t a vote. It’s a petition. In order to safeguard the integrity of the process, the names must be there for all to see so that we can all see for ourselves whether they are valid or not.

This is really basic stuff here, and it’s disturbing to see such pervasive idiocy in the judiciary of the state of Washington.