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		<title>By: Priya Lynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Priya Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 01:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just saw Ben&#039;s comment for the first time.  I note that contrary to his claim no one provided any facts about bad apples.  And to be accused of being a conservative for the first time in my life is hilarious.  Thanks for the laugh Ben.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just saw Ben&#8217;s comment for the first time.  I note that contrary to his claim no one provided any facts about bad apples.  And to be accused of being a conservative for the first time in my life is hilarious.  Thanks for the laugh Ben.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy (TRiG)</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/10/06/15234/comment-page-1#comment-52443</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy (TRiG)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 23:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s an old saying from when people stored apples from their orchards over winter. It certainly does not apply to a greengrocer, and still less to a supermarket.

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I have for many years had a general impression that American police are more violent than the ones I&#039;m used to here in Ireland. I&#039;m not sure where that impression comes from. Fiction, probably. I read a lot.

That said, civilized countries, such as the UK and Canada, also have these problems. Here&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/F50359?thread=6487869&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a note&lt;/a&gt; written by an Englishman living in Texas.

TRiG.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s an old saying from when people stored apples from their orchards over winter. It certainly does not apply to a greengrocer, and still less to a supermarket.</p>
<p>***</p>
<p>I have for many years had a general impression that American police are more violent than the ones I&#8217;m used to here in Ireland. I&#8217;m not sure where that impression comes from. Fiction, probably. I read a lot.</p>
<p>That said, civilized countries, such as the UK and Canada, also have these problems. Here&#8217;s <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/F50359?thread=6487869" rel="nofollow">a note</a> written by an Englishman living in Texas.</p>
<p>TRiG.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/10/06/15234/comment-page-1#comment-51164</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 03:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben,

To the best of my knowledge Priya Lynn could not be classified as &quot;conservative&quot;.  Further, such personal attacts are in violation of our comments policy.  Please avoid them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben,</p>
<p>To the best of my knowledge Priya Lynn could not be classified as &#8220;conservative&#8221;.  Further, such personal attacts are in violation of our comments policy.  Please avoid them.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/10/06/15234/comment-page-1#comment-51111</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 12:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I forgot that Priya Lynn is the resident conservative troll, so it shouldn&#039;t surprise me that after being shown facts, the scientific reasons behind a phenomena and the historical background, she discounts it in favor of her unscientific gut observations.  It&#039;s a typical conservative policy.

Apples sitting in an open air case at a grocery store where they are rotated nightly and examined for bruises are not going to display the same phenomena as apples closed up in a container for much longer period. This is exactly why the full phrase is so apt, because if the police actually faced some kind of accountability, the bad ones would be removed, and their disease wouldn&#039;t be allowed to spread to the uncorrupted. It&#039;s the perfect analogy for the police on every level, but only when taking the entirety of the original phrase. 

It&#039;s no wonder you&#039;ve never heard it, because the most likely sources of your news never use it in it&#039;s entirety, because it&#039;s used to excuse away the systematic corruption by blaming &quot;a few bad apples&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot that Priya Lynn is the resident conservative troll, so it shouldn&#8217;t surprise me that after being shown facts, the scientific reasons behind a phenomena and the historical background, she discounts it in favor of her unscientific gut observations.  It&#8217;s a typical conservative policy.</p>
<p>Apples sitting in an open air case at a grocery store where they are rotated nightly and examined for bruises are not going to display the same phenomena as apples closed up in a container for much longer period. This is exactly why the full phrase is so apt, because if the police actually faced some kind of accountability, the bad ones would be removed, and their disease wouldn&#8217;t be allowed to spread to the uncorrupted. It&#8217;s the perfect analogy for the police on every level, but only when taking the entirety of the original phrase. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s no wonder you&#8217;ve never heard it, because the most likely sources of your news never use it in it&#8217;s entirety, because it&#8217;s used to excuse away the systematic corruption by blaming &#8220;a few bad apples&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/10/06/15234/comment-page-1#comment-51109</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 11:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It doesn&#039;t matter, though you are wrong, the point remains. If you as a police officer remain silent when someone else in your department engages in misconduct, you are guilty, and the longer and more egregious the misconduct you can justify mentally for not speaking out against, the more and more corrupt you become, till you might even partake in the same misconduct yourself.

When studying police complaints, routinely 80%+ are found to be against 2-3 officers, but IA rarely lifts a finger, because no evidence or witnesses is brought forth by their fellow officers.

One bad police officer that isn&#039;t excised as soon as they are proven to be corrupt, ruins the whole department.  Just like apples.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn&#8217;t matter, though you are wrong, the point remains. If you as a police officer remain silent when someone else in your department engages in misconduct, you are guilty, and the longer and more egregious the misconduct you can justify mentally for not speaking out against, the more and more corrupt you become, till you might even partake in the same misconduct yourself.</p>
<p>When studying police complaints, routinely 80%+ are found to be against 2-3 officers, but IA rarely lifts a finger, because no evidence or witnesses is brought forth by their fellow officers.</p>
<p>One bad police officer that isn&#8217;t excised as soon as they are proven to be corrupt, ruins the whole department.  Just like apples.</p>
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		<title>By: Priya Lynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Priya Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 22:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link Lauderdale, but it didn&#039;t answer the question.  I&#039;ve seen many bruised apples at the grocery store, but I&#039;ve never seen the whole bunch of them gone bad.

Kith, rotten apples, maybe as mold can transfer, but I was referrring to bruised apples, which, as I&#039;ve said I&#039;ve never seen such bruising being catchy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link Lauderdale, but it didn&#8217;t answer the question.  I&#8217;ve seen many bruised apples at the grocery store, but I&#8217;ve never seen the whole bunch of them gone bad.</p>
<p>Kith, rotten apples, maybe as mold can transfer, but I was referrring to bruised apples, which, as I&#8217;ve said I&#8217;ve never seen such bruising being catchy.</p>
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		<title>By: Kith</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/10/06/15234/comment-page-1#comment-51068</link>
		<dc:creator>Kith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 22:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know asking for citation on what can easily be goggled is pretty bad.

It is an old proverb, it is &quot;One ROTTEN apple can spoil the whole BARRLE.&quot;

The scientific reason is that rotten apples release various gasses that promote the swift decay of the other fruit, and the Barrel part is important because a barrel is a closed system.

The phase has been used historically including by our founding fathers. It is even the cornerstone of a branch of economy and I found a rather long essay that used that phrase against both gay marriage and divorce.  I am not going to bother to provide you a hundred links because I am going to assume you are competent enough to use Google, but I will give you the link to the dictionary definition for Bad Apple.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bad+apple</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know asking for citation on what can easily be goggled is pretty bad.</p>
<p>It is an old proverb, it is &#8220;One ROTTEN apple can spoil the whole BARRLE.&#8221;</p>
<p>The scientific reason is that rotten apples release various gasses that promote the swift decay of the other fruit, and the Barrel part is important because a barrel is a closed system.</p>
<p>The phase has been used historically including by our founding fathers. It is even the cornerstone of a branch of economy and I found a rather long essay that used that phrase against both gay marriage and divorce.  I am not going to bother to provide you a hundred links because I am going to assume you are competent enough to use Google, but I will give you the link to the dictionary definition for Bad Apple.</p>
<p><a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bad+apple" rel="nofollow">http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bad+apple</a></p>
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		<title>By: The Lauderdale</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Lauderdale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 22:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.botany.org/bsa/misc/mcintosh/badapple.html

Google &quot;one bad apple&quot; and ethylene for more.  I&#039;ve also noticed this with tomatoes.</description>
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<p>Google &#8220;one bad apple&#8221; and ethylene for more.  I&#8217;ve also noticed this with tomatoes.</p>
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		<title>By: Priya Lynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Priya Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 21:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If you store apples in a box and just one of them has a bruise, that bruise will spread over the apple and across to the apples it’s touching, and will continue to spread until they’re all rotten. One singly tiny bruise on one apple will be enough to ruin them all.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

[citation needed]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If you store apples in a box and just one of them has a bruise, that bruise will spread over the apple and across to the apples it’s touching, and will continue to spread until they’re all rotten. One singly tiny bruise on one apple will be enough to ruin them all.</p></blockquote>
<p>[citation needed]</p>
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		<title>By: tavdy79</title>
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		<dc:creator>tavdy79</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 21:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Priya - I&#039;ve heard both versions, but it&#039;s Ben&#039;s version that&#039;s the right one.

If you store apples in a box and just one of them has a bruise, that bruise will spread over the apple and across to the apples it&#039;s touching, and will continue to spread until they&#039;re all rotten. One singly tiny bruise on one apple will be enough to ruin them all.

Unfortunately Humans often work in exactly the same way. The Nazi party was actually very small - but their rottenness spread and ended tens of millions of lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Priya &#8211; I&#8217;ve heard both versions, but it&#8217;s Ben&#8217;s version that&#8217;s the right one.</p>
<p>If you store apples in a box and just one of them has a bruise, that bruise will spread over the apple and across to the apples it&#8217;s touching, and will continue to spread until they&#8217;re all rotten. One singly tiny bruise on one apple will be enough to ruin them all.</p>
<p>Unfortunately Humans often work in exactly the same way. The Nazi party was actually very small &#8211; but their rottenness spread and ended tens of millions of lives.</p>
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