LaBarbera Award: The Archbishop of Guam

Jim Burroway

October 23rd, 2009

Recently the Guam legislature introduced legislation that would create same-sex domestic partnerships. That move prompted this response from the Archdiocese of Agana (Guam) (PDF: 261KB/3 pages):

The culture of homosexuality is a culture of self-absorption because it does not value self·sacrifice. It is a glaring example of what John Paul II has called the culture of death. Islamic fundamentalists clearly understand the damage that homosexual behavior inflicts on a culture. That is why they repress such behavior by death. Their culture is anything but one of self-absorption. It may be brutal at times, but any culture that is able to produce wave after wave of suicide bombers (women as well as men) is a culture that at least knows how to value self-sacrifice. Terrorism as a way to oppose the degeneration of the culture is to be rejected completely since such violence is itself another form of degeneracy. One, however. does not have to agree with the gruesome ways that the fundamentalists use to curb the forces that undermine their culture to admit that the Islamic fundamentalist charge that Western Civilization in general and the U.S.A. in particular is the “Great Satan” is not without an element of truth. It makes no sense for the U. S. Government to send our boys to fight AI Qaida and the Taliban in Afghanistan, while at the same time it embraces the social policies embodied in Bill1SS (as President Obama has done). Such policies only furnish further arguments for the fundamentalists in their efforts to gain more recruits for the war against the “Great Satan.”

[Hat tip: Andrew Sullivan]

Thomas

October 23rd, 2009

Just goes to show how much hatred there is in organized religion. The Archbishop’s comments are vile. VILE.

Richard W. Fitch

October 23rd, 2009

It also goes to show how out of touch conservatives/fundamentalists are with the science and sociology of the 21st century.

Ben in Oakland

October 23rd, 2009

“The culture of homosexuality is a culture of self-absorption because it does not value self·sacrifice. It is a glaring example of what John Paul II has called the culture of death. Islamic fundamentalists clearly understand the damage that homosexual behavior inflicts on a culture.”

So many things wrong with this.

I guess wiping my late partner’s ass as he lay dying does not constitute self-sacrifice.

Speaking of damage, what about that of an organization that claims it is the path to salvation, that its officiants are called by G to serve, and yet those same officiants molest children and are shielded by the said organization. I wonder what kind of damage THAT behavior inflicts on a culture.

This screed csounds so familiar. Let us quote the Repugnican Party of Texas: “The practice of sodomy tears at the fabric of society.”

Unlike protracted culture wars, a culture of denying the truth, of hypocrisy, of greed, of attack thy neighbor with baseless, horrific lies, of scare the bejesus out of people in order to persuade them to assist you in your pogroms, er, programs…

…oh my, I’m on a roll…

Unlike encouraging people to have babies they can’t afford, don’t want, and cannot feed or educate to have becaase, and I quote JPII, “the church needs priests”…

Unlike 300 years of unprovoked warfare against Islam, resulting in culture clashes and gasoline prices still being experienced today…

Unlike having whole generations disappear in Africa because the Church doesn’t think the condoms help prevent the spread of AIDS…

Unlike… oh… these people just wear me out.

Lindoro Almaviva

October 23rd, 2009

and it is official, the religious right have embraced the ideas of the taliban

Burr

October 23rd, 2009

Ah yes, the ol’ “can’t treat gays like human beings because it pisses off the terrorists” argument.

I guess we’ll have our rights after we win the War or Terror?

In that case, shouldn’t we be stripping Jews of all their rights, too?

Oh and making Islam the state religion..

Who knew an Archbishop could be such a surrender monkey?

Candace

October 23rd, 2009

Yes, it’s better to blow up women and children in terrorist acts than to do The Gay.

Do you think Jesus throws up a little in his mouth when he hears this kind of crap?

Christopher Waldrop

October 23rd, 2009

Burr, you beat me to it. I’ve always been baffled by the “providing equal rights to homosexuals just encourages Muslim terrorists” argument because it’s used exclusively by people who hold on to the simplistic notion that there is a “war on terror”. I find this remark particularly enlightening, though:

One, however, does not have to agree with the gruesome ways that the fundamentalists use…to admit that the Islamic fundamentalist charge that Western Civilization in general and the U.S.A. in particular is the “Great Satan” is not without an element of truth.

So the Archdiocese refuses to condone the method even if he agrees with the principles. I still have trouble finding any comfort in that.

Eric N

October 23rd, 2009

“The culture of homosexuality is a culture of self-absorption because it does not value self sacrifice. It is a glaring example of what John Paul II has called the CULTURE OF DEATH. Islamic fundamentalists clearly understand the damage that homosexual behavior inflicts on a culture. That is why they REPRESS SUCH BEHAVIOR BY DEATH.”

So domestic partnerships between two people who desire to make a commitment to one another is representative of “self absorption” and a “culture of death” while actual “death” (ie execution of innocent people for simply being different) is neither? Wow.

Lynn David

October 23rd, 2009

It’s somewhat less LaBarbera of the Archdiocese of Agana (Guam) and more Westboro Baptist.

On another note, how could one – even other American Christian – convince Ugandan Christians of the error of their ways as concerns the Anti-Homosexuality Bill, when a Roman Catholic Diocese produces such a vile, evil document as this.

And it is evil. The church has for too long defined homosexuality as a psychological problem, as narcissistic and only associated with sexual gratification for the one. They don’t get it, don’t attempt to understand, and they never will choose to do so.

KZ

October 23rd, 2009

This is one of the DUMBEST and most insulting things that I’ve ever read. Would someone please do the Arch-idiot a favor and advise him not to issue any more statements… …EVER?

EDDIE JR.

October 24th, 2009

It was 9-11 that drove me from religion,and it’s comments like those of the arch-bishop, that make me believe I did the right thing.

Timothy (TRiG)

October 30th, 2009

Someone tell Peter Tatchell he doesn’t value self-sacrifice.

TRiG.

ravenbiker

November 3rd, 2009

This is the most outrageous thing I ever had to read and know about! To think a man of Christ is saying that fundementalists who kill are actually preserving life! I am in total outrage!!

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